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Bye Bye Tom Delay!

Discussion in 'General' started by Shadowdean, Sep 28, 2005.

  1. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

  2. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

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    From the first article...

    <font color="blue">Kevin Madden, DeLay's spokesman, dismissed the charge as politically motivated.

    "This indictment is nothing more than prosecutorial retribution by a partisan Democrat," Madden said, citing prosecutor Ronnie Earle, a Democrat.

    Madden later added: "They could not get Tom DeLay at the polls. They could not get Mr. DeLay on the House floor. Now they're trying to get him into the courtroom. This is not going to detract from the Republican agenda."</font>

    I'm guessing the agenda is to commit felonies and try NOT to get caught? Of course the charge is politically motivated. This is politics. Everything is politically motivated. Including The Republican Agenda.
     
  3. Painty_J

    Painty_J Well-Known Member

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    Plague said:
    I'm guessing the agenda is to commit felonies and try NOT to get caught? Of course the charge is politically motivated. This is politics. Everything is politically motivated. Including The Republican Agenda.

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    hogwash you damn conspiracy theorist. there is no political motivation behind the repulciban agenda
     
  4. Maximus

    Maximus Well-Known Member

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    Painty_J said:

    hogwash you damn conspiracy theorist. there is no political motivation behind the repulciban agenda

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    Come again?!?
     
  5. Plague

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    Wash the hog! I think you're conspiring for a conspiratory conspiracy!

    I like the new spelling ya got there, too... Repulse eh bans


    If you've seen Lord of War... "I prefer it my way." - President of Liberia
     
  6. akiralove

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    Here's something from an article I read recently about Vaccines & the possible links to Autism and other disorders they may cause (this subject is hotly debated). It concerns Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, one of Delay's pals:

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    The drug companies are also getting help from powerful lawmakers in Washington. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, who has received $873,000 in contributions from the pharmaceutical industry, has been working to immunize vaccine makers from liability in 4,200 lawsuits that have been filed by the parents of injured children. On five separate occasions, Frist has tried to seal all of the government's vaccine-related documents -- including the Simpsonwood transcripts -- and shield Eli Lilly, the developer of thimerosal, from subpoenas. In 2002, the day after Frist quietly slipped a rider known as the "Eli Lilly Protection Act" into a homeland security bill, the company contributed $10,000 to his campaign and bought 5,000 copies of his book on bioterrorism. The measure was repealed by Congress in 2003 -- but earlier this year, Frist slipped another provision into an anti-terrorism bill that would deny compensation to children suffering from vaccine-related brain disorders. "The lawsuits are of such magnitude that they could put vaccine producers out of business and limit our capacity to deal with a biological attack by terrorists," says Dean Rosen, health policy adviser to Frist.

    Even many conservatives are shocked by the government's effort to cover up the dangers of thimerosal. Rep. Dan Burton, a Republican from Indiana, oversaw a three-year investigation of thimerosal after his grandson was diagnosed with autism. "Thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines is directly related to the autism epidemic," his House Government Reform Committee concluded in its final report. "This epidemic in all probability may have been prevented or curtailed had the FDA not been asleep at the switch regarding a lack of safety data regarding injected thimerosal, a known neurotoxin." The FDA and other public-health agencies failed to act, the committee added, out of "institutional malfeasance for self protection" and "misplaced protectionism of the pharmaceutical industry."

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    I'm glad to know our Gov't is working hard to protect huge pharmaceutical corporations from normal people. I guess it's silly to think our Gov't might be inversted in protecting it's PEOPLE from corporate psychopaths, glad we have our priorities straight.

    (link to whole article, by R.F. Kennedy Jr., an interesting and terrifying read)

    www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/7395411/?pageid=rs.PoliticsArchive&pageregion=mainRegion

    here's another good tidbit on delay, also from Rolling Stone (admittedly a liberal source, but a factual quote)

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    After the revelations of the past few weeks, there is no longer any doubt that Rep. Tom DeLay is the most corrupt official in Washington -- which is saying a lot, given the ethical standards of Capitol Hill. The Republican majority leader, known as "The Hammer," has broken nearly every House ethics rule on the books in recent years, enjoying lavish trips paid for by corporate lobbyists and foreign agents. DeLay stayed at the luxurious Hapuna Beach Prince Hotel in Hawaii as a guest of the American Association of Airport Executives, who picked up the $52,000 tab for eight members of Congress. He went golfing in Scotland, Russia and South Korea with family members and aides, racking up $283,000 in expenses that were covered by a host of special interests, including Enron, AT&T and the Nuclear Energy Institute. His wife, Christine, and daughter Danni Ferro have received $500,000 from his campaign for their political work on his behalf -- including a late-night party for corporate donors at the Rio Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, where a lobbyist poured champagne over Danni's head while she was in a hot tub on the balcony of DeLay's suite. The majority leader -- a master at covering his tracks by laundering corporate gifts through seemingly innocuous groups like the National Center for Public Policy Research -- insists that his first-class jet-setting is undertaken solely for "educational" purposes.

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    article:
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/7313592?pageid=rs.Politics&pageregion=single4

    To me, the question isn't "Are these people corrupt, is our country in the hands of these people?"' because the answers to those questions in obviously yes. It's "What will Americans do about this?"

    Sadly, up to now, the answer by and large is "Nothing, not a fucking thing".

    But, as bad as all this shit is, I'm more worried about the Environment. I heard today that NASA found that the ice cap around the North Pole has become 30% smaller in the last 10 years.

    http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/D25868B3-DCB8-4207-9A2F-8E2F86B10408.htm

    If people are out of tune with the crimes politicians perpitrate on a daily basis; than the average person is absolutely ignorant, in fact often in staunch opposition to the idea that there's any problem with the way humans live as it relates to our environment.

    Bryan
     
  7. thebradSHow

    thebradSHow Well-Known Member

    well, yea, america yo, we have a president who, no joke, got re elected on the "we hate fags" platform, who has given pretty much every war contract so far to some company that either he himself, or his vice president own. Peoples inability to do much about it outside of vote, we get pretty fucked because the christian right, conservatives as a whole, and in broader words, republicans have been coming out in record numbers to vote and we have been sitting here doing nothing more than just watch it happen. A retarded incumbancy rate due to the fact that no one is informed enough about any given candidate to make anything more than what I'd call "uneducated guesses" about what we really should be doing. We need to take strides as a whole but people won't as long as some people are well off enough to not care. Without big action, america will keep spiraling the drain I believe.
     
  8. Plague

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    [ QUOTE ]
    akiralove said:

    I'm glad to know our Gov't is working hard to protect huge pharmaceutical corporations from normal people. I guess it's silly to think our Gov't might be inversted in protecting it's PEOPLE from corporate psychopaths, glad we have our priorities straight.


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    That brings up a subject from a conversation (well, maybe a lecture) I've received numerous times...

    "So, Talis, what do you think the government's number one job is?"

    "To take care of it's country's people."

    "No, no, no. That would create a welfare state of lazy people and we would all go broke. The government is there to protect the country. To wipe out communism and now to keep those stupid, little, backward people from killing us. To bless them with knowledge on how things should be."

    "Well, I think taking care of it's people is part of 'protecting the country' "

    "What... do you just want to pay ludicrous taxes drummed up by a bunch of liberal idiots to care for criminals, lowlifes, and scum? You know, there are times in history when God plays a direct part the way our country is run. I really think Washington, Lincoln, Reagan, and now Bush were elected due to God's influence..."

    It just goes on. These are the type of people that voted for Bush and just see no flaws. I hear De Lay's words "frivolous, agenda, baseless" connected with "drummed up by liberals," spewed furiously.

    "I'm sure some of it is political. I'm concerned about the parts that are true and fact-based."

    "It's all lies, meant to deceive you. Made up by those liberals."


    To me the battle starts here. I'm out to turn the tide through standing my ground with words and model behavior. I have hope to make small dents with people like I described above. It's unlikely that these type of people will change their minds completely. I won't force my views. I don't want to do that. I will lead and effect change by example. That's a lot of fucking work. Too bad I just won't yell at people and call them stupid for not agreeing with me.

    That would be easy.

    I could have a talk show.
     
  9. Painty_J

    Painty_J Well-Known Member

    Liberaal is the new faggot or nigger, take yuro pick
     
  10. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.

    The person I describe above also had this to say...


    "Hey, Talis. Just so you know how sneaky those liberals are - they now are calling themselves 'progressives.' "

    "Yeah, I know. Pretty smart move since the word liberal now carries such a negative spin."
     
  11. DissMaster

    DissMaster Well-Known Member

    "Progressives" (from around the turn of the century)actually predate "Liberals" (New Deal and Cold War).

    "Liberals" basically, if not explicitly, posited themselves as the reasonable choice between Communisn/socialism and laissez-faire,robber baron capitalism. The Republican bullshit machine has spent billions over the decades producing a steady bullshit torrent to splatter upon the reputatation of "Liberalism." Therefore people are returning to the older term "Progressive."

    The Progressives (like Herb Crowley, and T.H. Greene and Jane Addams) worked to establish regulations in meat handling (think of Upton Sinclair's The Jungle ), establish workplace safety laws, abolish child labor, establish the 40 hour work-week, and other reforms.


    You may not hear the media go on about it, but Bush's approval rating is Nixon-during-Watergate levels.


    After spending 30 million dollars of tax payer money following Bill Clinton's jism trail all the way to impeachment, haven't the Republicans lost the right to complain about politically-motivated legal shenanigins? Have they no shame? Wait don't answer that...
     

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