hi again i just wanted to know ive been experimenting with the B,B+P combo starter and the B,B+K combo starter the problem is the B,B+K combo starter doesnt work in VF3TB i cant get another move off before the guy hits the ground. is this only for the arcade cause i heard there was a difference in float times. One more thing if you can list any combos used with the B,B+P combo it would be greatly appreciated. thanks alot you guys for responding to all my posts you have a great forum here. "Without my pain i'm nothing"