Confessions of a Scrubby Lion or "why can't I hold all these 2KK's"

I don't know when 3 is considered crouching exactly. But with 2 you can poke under mids against most chars. Plus because it's instantly considered crouching you can interrupt strings much easier with it. Also the is a high circular (semi useful) and wall splats (potentially very useful). If the 2 knocks the opponent against the wall and you see sparks indicating a wallhit then this is another situation where the is guaranteed and if you have lined them up....wallsplat....100+ Dmg easy.

 

I'll chip in and say I agree with both of you here.

On a practicality level I empathize with MarlyJay in cases where it can be (and for me usually is) very difficult to get the MC against a special high because of how slow 2K is. In my matches it is common to see me dying by the situation MJ describes because I mC with 2K instead and Panda and AJS now launch me for duckable K+Gs.

It feels good to get 2K (MC), K+G --> 6_P(G) --> 6PP though.

Also fun getting 2K Sideturn mC but combo is not always viable on sideturned opponent.

This move is still great near the wall as Animal explains it. Can setup crazy damage.

Right now my assessment is the move is stronger online than offline and stronger against predictable high attack whores. As your opponent gets stronger, it is still really viable but much harder to find the proper place to use it.

I do think MJ's implied question is one all Lion players should frequently ask: would 2_3P be better here? Sometimes the answer is a strong yes. Sometimes 2K is actually the move.

Some places I like it though are the opening and when fighting stances/steps that have popular high attack options, including special highs.

Situations like after Jacky's beat knuckle are less viable for me because of the 19f execution.

I find this move to require a bit more skill and situation to use in FS these days, but at least the reward also got a boost

 

I would use 1K if I wanted to be evasive, and 2K if I wanted the half circular and..slow low properties? I guess...