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Dark Knight

Discussion in 'General' started by Chief_Flash, Jul 18, 2008.

  1. FaisonI

    FaisonI Well-Known Member




    LoL, Ok, I give it to you... You call this one right on the money. Excellent Movie!!
     
  2. Jay David

    Jay David Well-Known Member

    Saw it just now and I have to co-sign. Though I never doubted it would be an awsome movie, because anything that has Batman in it can't suck by default. Its amusing watching everyone jump on the Bat-wagon now. I've been a Batman fanboy since I was 5, bwa ha ha. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
     
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  3. Jerky

    Jerky Well-Known Member

    This movie was so epic. I'm speechless.


    Edit: Oh btw

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  4. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

    XBL:
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    everything after BATMAN RETURNS EXCEPT MASK OF THE PHANTASM was complete doo doo. but i am glad to say that batman is back! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
     
  5. Adamay

    Adamay Well-Known Member

    No other comic movie will supass this one for years. This film is like Fedor is to MMA.
     
  6. KrsJin

    KrsJin Well-Known Member

    </div>

    </div></div>
    The internet! It has not failed us! Lol, shame it's poor quality but good considering it's bootleg filmed haha.
     
  7. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

    XBL:
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    just saw it a second time with the VA crew! ITS EVEN BETTER THE SECOND TIME!!!!! WOW!!!!

    this time i was able to appreciate the soundtrack and little details such as batman having the ability to turn his head after acquiring the modified suit.
     
  8. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

    PSN:
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    I saw it last Friday night. I thought Heath Ledger was an absolute standout and I can't wait to watch it again.

    However, there were two minor nitpicks I had:

    1. I didn't like the whole cell phone cum sonar device to create an all seeing eye. I know Batman's toys are "out there" but this was a bit too much of a stretch for me.

    2. Batman's "move voice-over" voice. Was it like that in Batman Begins? If it was, then I don't remember it annoying me back then as it did now.
     
  9. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

    XBL:
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    STOP NITPICKING A PERFECT MOVIE YOU CROC!!!! >=O
     
  10. Jerky

    Jerky Well-Known Member

    I agree with Myke for the most part, but it's forgiven by me considering the fact that he does have a secret identity to uphold lest 6:40 of this:

    <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/sx2L3qhTnF4"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/sx2L3qhTnF4" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

    happens :p
     
  11. social_ruin

    social_ruin Well-Known Member

    LOL on the turning the head
     
  12. Jide

    Jide The Super Shinobi Silver Supporter

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    I saw this movie yesterday. Thank you Mr Nolan.... The movie was just fucking epic. Ledgers performance as Joker was brilliant...
    I'm definitely going to see this again at the IMAX. When can we pre-order the Blu-Ray ? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

    As opposed to all his gadgets. It didn't seem too far fetched to me. Considering that his computer can do far more crazy shit.

    2. Yes, his gruffy voice was in Batman Begins too. Probably because he spoke more as Batman this time around it's why it annoyed you. But even in the cartoons its the same thing. (Kevin Conroy is hanging up his boots soon /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif ).Bruce Wayne voice is very light however when he's batman his voice is far more "gruffy".

    Ledger R.I.P
     
  13. KoD

    KoD Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    codiak
    <span style='font-size: 26pt'>=|</span>

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Warning, Spoiler: <input type="button" class="form-button" value="Show" onclick="if (this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display != '') { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = '';this.innerText = ''; this.value = 'Hide'; } else { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = 'none'; this.innerText = ''; this.value = 'Show'; }" /></div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div style="display: none;">Batman: You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. I get to lose things. Because I'm not a hero. Not like Dent. (beat) I killed those people. That's what I can be.

    Gordon: No, no, you can't! You're not --

    Batman: I'm whatever Gotham needs me to be. Call it in.

    Gordon: They'll hunt you.

    Batman: You'll hunt me. You'll condemn me. Send the dogs on me. Because that's what needs to happen. Because sometimes, the truth isn't good enough. Sometimes people deserve more. Sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded.

    *Batman runs away*

    Gordon's Kid: Batman! Batman! Why is he running, dad?

    Gordon: Because we have to chase him.

    Gordon's Kid: He didn't do anything wrong.

    Gordon: Because he's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not a hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A dark knight.</div></div></div>

    Translation: In case you weren't paying attention to what was just implied, let's let one character tell you, then have another character ask what happened, then have another character tell you yet again.

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    Gordon's Kid: Dad, you're the police commissioner. Cant you come up with a better coverup for how a couple of more people happened to die while the entire city was being blown to shit? Do you really have to blame batman?

    Gordon: Shut up kid, we need a sequel
    </div></div></div>

    It was better than batman begins, but the intarweb is off its collective rocker to think this is the best movie of all time.
     
  14. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    saw it. thought it was great. got some issues myself and Myke and I have the same thoughts....I forgive the cell phone tech but buddy seriously had his growl on. sometimes grating, sometimes not. shrug.

    however!!!

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Warning, Spoiler: <input type="button" class="form-button" value="Show" onclick="if (this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display != '') { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = '';this.innerText = ''; this.value = 'Hide'; } else { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = 'none'; this.innerText = ''; this.value = 'Show'; }" /></div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div style="display: none;">first. I get they needed a reason to turn Dent to the dark side. Rachel's death gives us that reason and it stands up but then to kill Dent? What a waste! Also, seriously. batman's only option is to toss himself, the boy and Two Face all of the roof at the same time? this is the solution that the World's Greatest Detective comes up with? nothing else? nothing in that belt of his, let alone his brain?</div></div></div>

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Warning, Spoiler: <input type="button" class="form-button" value="Show" onclick="if (this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display != '') { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = '';this.innerText = ''; this.value = 'Hide'; } else { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = 'none'; this.innerText = ''; this.value = 'Show'; }" /></div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div style="display: none;">I do agree with KoD about the need to make Batman the outlaw being very weak. Why not Joker? Why not Joker's henchmen, the mob revenge/in-fighting or any other group of villains that make more sense. There were deaths and violence aplenty, there was no real NEED to frame Batman as the villain or even for Batman to be so willingly framed. I didn't buy the reasoning at all. It came on too fast and wasn't necessary as there were plenty of options.</div></div></div>
     
  15. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

    XBL:
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    kod and cockeater, sitting on a tree...

    being FAGS! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif
     
  16. Sorias

    Sorias Well-Known Member

    to KoD et al:

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Warning, Spoiler: <input type="button" class="form-button" value="Show" onclick="if (this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display != '') { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = '';this.innerText = ''; this.value = 'Hide'; } else { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = 'none'; this.innerText = ''; this.value = 'Show'; }" /></div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div style="display: none;">I think the answer is that they knew they were lying about the circumstances of Dent's death, and they needed to be 100% sure noone would find the truth. If they just claimed it was the joker, all the other policemen would obviously know they made it up, since he was already in custody at that point. The only person that was actually at the scene, and they could prove had been at the scene was Batman himself. And also, the only person who could disprove the lie at that point was Batman as well. Blaming the real bad guys wouldn't work, cause they would testify that they hadn't done it. As long as noone actually brings Batman in for questioning, then noone can even start investigating what really happened. There's also the whole psychological thing... Bruce Wayne doesn't really like who is in the movies, and doesn't seem to believe that he can really be a hero, remember the whole plot line where he's trying to quit being Batman the whole film. I think he really wanted the public to hate him, so they'll find a replacement for Dent instead of relying on him to fix their problems forever.</div></div></div>
     
  17. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

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    PWND! GO SORIAS GO!
     
  18. KoD

    KoD Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    codiak
    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Warning, Spoiler: <input type="button" class="form-button" value="Show" onclick="if (this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display != '') { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = '';this.innerText = ''; this.value = 'Hide'; } else { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = 'none'; this.innerText = ''; this.value = 'Show'; }" /></div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div style="display: none;">
    Wait, batman was there when two-face killed the mob boss' driver and blew up the car? And he was there when two-face was terrorizing the crooked cops? (nevermind at least one of the crooked cops living to be able to identify dent in any case)
    </div></div></div>

    Damn, batman's a crafty inzibivle mofo! You've convinced me, this film is clearly better made than 7 samurai and rear window put together.
     
  19. Sorias

    Sorias Well-Known Member

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Warning, Spoiler: <input type="button" class="form-button" value="Show" onclick="if (this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display != '') { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = '';this.innerText = ''; this.value = 'Hide'; } else { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = 'none'; this.innerText = ''; this.value = 'Show'; }" /></div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div style="display: none;"> But they aren't really covering for the crimes commited by Dent earlier. The question is "Who killed Dent, and why?" And tecnically, Batman did kill him, they're just altering the why to "Because Batman must be evil", so they can preserve Dent's image, rather than the truth of "Because Dent was evil". The dead mafia guys can't say anything, and the crooked cops won't say anything, becaues everyone would find out they were crooked, so it's good enough to work.

    I'm not saying the movie is perfect or anything, I think it had it's share of flaws, many of them in regards to setting up Dent's character. It felt like they refused to mention his "nickname" of Two-face early in the film, since it would be recognized by comic fans... and yet, all the comic fans probably recognized the name Harvey Dent, so it just made for messy pacing.

    In this case, though, the result at the end was appropriate for resolving the themes of the story, which is really what matters most. Realism complaints are kind of missing the point (in any movie, that is).</div></div></div>
     
  20. Ladon

    Ladon Well-Known Member

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    Ladon---
    hey KoD...

    why so serious? ;D
     

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