HI, I'm a UK player, relatively new to the arcade scene, coming from vf3tb, and I am curious as to what everyone thinks of the loss of the E button in VF4. I for one didn't miss it at all, after the first round. I am mostly using Jacky at the mo, mainly because he is so forgiving, and newbie (i resent the word scrub ) friendly. Main differences from vf3 that i noticed? having Jacky's beat knuckle combo's continue even if you block the first hit make him much harder to deal with now, and he seems to be able to delay the subsequent hits noticeably, throwing off the timing of you attacking back. His kickflip is much weaker now too, the damage pay-off barely seems worth the insane risk involved in executing it (btw - remember to TAP kick now for it - ub+holding kick just gives u his embarassing looking backwards hopping kick now). What else? The b+P+K+G stance - looks very interesting - he shuffles/dances back about 1-2 back dash lengths and shouts "come on!". I can see machi players loving this move. He can interrupt it with: a) a kazuya style body blow (df,df+2 -gives a crumple stun on CH, not sure about followups yet), b) a swift step in high kick (this creates a stumble on CH too, - saw it done on the CPU, then followed with the beat knuckle, P,K combo. Took off half their life! What the CPU eats, human players often block, so I'm not sure if it's do-able on human comp) c) a step in low, high double kick. comes out quickly, but can't be followed up afterwards AFAIK yet. the speed it comes out with should catch plenty of ppl out to begin with though. On the whole, Jacky's moves seem to be much more his own now, he has new animations on from what i saw, 40% of his new moves. He seems to have a lot more Jeet Kune Do style animations and moves in general now; that seems the most economical way of describing the feel of vf4 jacky compared to vf3 jacky. Oh yeah, they animate the laces on this trainers. Nice touch. Hope this helps some of the peeps who haven't played VF4 yet, and goes some way to disproving the emerging UK stereotyped VF player.. More will come, after I've applied to uni. Oh yeah, this may interest you - casino is pretty much the best arcade in london for competition, and last time i went, there seems to be growing interest among Tekken 4 players towards VF4, now that both are in the same arcade..maybe they are seeing the light! Daggi Oh yeah, before i went on rambling i asked a question about the E button. Don't forget to answer it in your replies, please. Ta.