Double Palm

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Looks easy, but I just can't pull this move off. How fast are you guys switching from left to right? Can do pretty much all the moves minus this (and that good forsaken knee!!!!)

 

Easiest way to do it is to do it from a low attack so do something like /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif straight into /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif.

 

another easy way is to input /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif

 

So is this the nature of the game, where there is more than one way to input a moves?

 

Well more than one way to modify moves starting 'from crouch' at least. With double palm as an example, in addition to what they posted some people do:

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Basically double palm has to be done from crouching and there are various ways to do a crouch, you can hold down or do a crouch dash.

Crouch dash inputs are /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif. Some moves leave you crouching too like the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif I mentioned earlier.

All you gotta do is input /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif when you are crouching for the double palm.

 

Thanks for the input. I've tried all of your suggestions, and had some success (also doing it the way mentioned above).

Man, this character has a lot of depth to him. It seems impossible to get really good, or even master this guy.

In any case, I still turn on VF5 and continue the fight.

 

I suggest you try sparring with the Akira players here on VFDC. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

The buffering crouch input just needs to be in really fast. Some moves won't let you do it right away. That double palm is a killer!

 

Yes because buffering depends on how fast your moves recover. Buffering double palm after standing P and 1-frame Knee has different timings because of the difference in recovery time.
In VF, you can buffer moves in the last 10 frames of a move's recovery and it will come out.

 

I discovered that I have some mental wall that prevent me to buffer /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif during a combo but alone I do it very quickly with accuracy.
The thing I have to do to get past this is only to think of the crouch dash motion and then my hand end the dblplm motion alone on auto pilot.
I don't understand why btw, and on P2 I have no problems doing buffered double palms but I do them like /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif

 

Cat, I recommend that you try to get in the habit of buffering double palms with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif on 1p side, and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif on 2p side. That way you can just roll the joystick to the Back direction and get the move out quickly. Your wrist won't move as much and your accuracy will increase.

 

Yep actually on 2pside I do em with 33 but on 1p I can't with 11 cuz my hand position is special and I can't do quickly 1146...
btw since I have broken a button I switched to the classic button config GPK (like on arcade, I was on PKG before) and I must learn again to play it's pretty hard. For example I could knee with consistency in fights before and now I can't do it even in dojo, I must learn again to do it with another button config and that's the same for a lot of moves (DLC etc..) so I'm just training offline these days to get used to this new config... but it'll take a lot of time for sure.

 

Actually the motion ( /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif on 1P side) is even EASY for me. I do it fast and very accuratly (?).
But if I'm trying to do the whole combo ( /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif ) , I fuck up. If I just think of the crouch dash motion at the end of /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, I succeed. What the fuck I mean... If I don't think to it and focus myself on the crouch dash I get the combo every time and easily, If I say "Ok I'm gonna do the combo" and try to do it as a whole I fail.
I need a working brain, if anyone has one in stock /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

 

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That's the input I use on both sides. At its best, you don't see Akira crouch. Maybe 1 frame of him bending his knees lower to CD but the best double palms can hit you out of nowhere with no telegraphing.

In a combo, it almost looks like a standing move if you do it right and the opponent is still airborne.

Othertimes, I get lazy and do his DBPlm this way for his Stdplm combo:

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Ultimately, it doesn't matter how you get there as long as you get there...