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Easy to juggle Jeffry's guide

Discussion in 'Jeffry' started by Unicorn, May 8, 2007.

  1. Unicorn

    Unicorn Well-Known Masher Content Manager Wolf

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    This guide was made (is making /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif ) in hope to cover all of Jeffrys best (read: most damaging /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif ) juggles you can use against every specific character in the game. It is still in progress and I will add more character in the future; just please be patient, because to complete this guide against single character takes about 4 or more hours - and I am short of time this dayes.

    The rules of this guide are simple: I will listed here just best (most damaging) juggles, which are not stance-depandable. Stance-depandable juggles are allowed only if they fulfil at least one of following points:

    1) that juggle it is some stylish one
    2) that juggle have some special property/ability which universal juggle does not have
    3) that juggle grantes you at least 5 more points of gamage that universal one

    So wellcome to the Easy to juggle world of Jeffry!

    Characters (ordered by their weight):

    Eileen
    Aoi
    Pai
    Vanessa
    Sarah
    El Blaze
    Goh
    Brad
    Kage
    Lei Fei
    Lion
    Shun
    Jacky
    Lau
    Akira
    Wolf
    Jeffry

    wall juggles

    Please remember, that weight is not the only factor which affect which juggles you can use on some specific character. Their height and their stance (I don't mean open/close stance, but how they are humped /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif ) are important factors too.

    In this guide, you can find some notices. Some of them needs some special explanation, which you will find here:

    just ukemi possible - this notice means that this juggle can be interrupted with exact recovery; usually after bounce-causing move

    extended (X) - some of VF5 juggles have following special atribute: if oppenent try to techroll the last hit and press P+K+G in a small frame window shortly before he can really recover, the damage of juggle will be bosted up. This work only for last hit in juggle and this boost does depend only on mentionem (ie P+K+G pressed shortly befoore reall techroll window); un/successful TR does not matter.
     
  2. Unicorn

    Unicorn Well-Known Masher Content Manager Wolf

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    Please, I will more that welcomme any help you can grant me. Especially you can help me with this things:
    <ul>[*]My english sucks. You can correct (or supplement /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif ) my texts; or write your own ones /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[*]I can have tons of mistakes in my guide; especially in listed damages. If you will find them, please let me know.[*]It is possible I missed something and you know juggle which is better that are juggles I listed here. You will be more that wellcome of you will post them in this thread.[*]I know I missed something with side crumples; but I cannot figure what. If you will find that, please post it here.[*]My "enhanced theory" is still only a theory. If you can spend some time trying it and testing how this really work and then describe it's mechanisms here, it will be awesome.[/list]
    Huh, I think this are the basics; but you can come with anything else what will help to make this guide better and I will be really grateful for any kind of your help /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif
     
  3. neversaydie

    neversaydie New Member

    Hey, thank you very much for this. I'm beginning to try and make Jeff my main. This will help alot.
     
  4. Sebo

    Sebo Well-Known Member Content Manager Taka Content Manager Jeffry

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    Awesome man. Another Jeffry Monster Thread, we need to get a FAQ going soon.

    If only I had a PS3.
    ----

    Oh shit, Threat /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif(block)>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif doesn't work anymore on Lau or Lion?
     
  5. Sudden_Death

    Sudden_Death Well-Known Member

    nope, "The Father-Daughter and the 2 Faggots Combo" (an easy way adamyuki and myself came up with to remember on who it works on..lau,pai,lion,brad) dont work anymore. those awsome halflife thread stance combos seem to be gone, you can only rely on f+kg for now. I did find an alternative thread stance combo that does more than the f+kg ! ill post a movie of it soon....(remember i dont have a ps3/game lol) i need to confirm it first...but the combo its sometimes not worth doing cause the margin of error ir kinda big (aka u can fuck it up easy)
     
  6. ElectricLeo

    ElectricLeo Well-Known Member

    For Lion to be gay he'd have to have had sex at least once with a man. He's not even got that far yet.
     
  7. jherb5000

    jherb5000 Well-Known Member

    Does anyone have any tips on hitting the last 64 P+K of HighKick's wall combo to connect? ( 6P+G (wall hit) 64P+K P 64P+K P 64P+K 6K).
     
  8. Unicorn

    Unicorn Well-Known Masher Content Manager Wolf

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    Shun added and linked from 1st post /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

    Hopefully Lei will appear tomorrow
     
  9. Unicorn

    Unicorn Well-Known Masher Content Manager Wolf

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    Lei added
     
  10. Kay

    Kay Well-Known Member

    And he doesn't make allowances for old men.
     
  11. tribaL

    tribaL Well-Known Member

    OMG LMFAO
     
  12. Unicorn

    Unicorn Well-Known Masher Content Manager Wolf

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    Brad and Sarah added

    BTW no mather what I cannot connect this 2 juggles, any advices, please?

    girls:
    6K 43P+K 6_P 43P+K 6K
    (I know it is stancedependable, but... I cannot make 1st 43P+K bouncing; and if I somehouw does, 2nd one newer bounce for me /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif )

    Lau and some others:
    46P 64P+K 66 2P 43P+K 6K
    (I cannot make that 2P to rebounce opponent, like fe after 6P+K)
    [/size]
     
  13. SHwoKing

    SHwoKing Well-Known Member



    43+P+K is faster in version C and i have never saw 6K 43P+K 6_P 43P+K 6K landed like Threat Stance K (MC), 2P, 43P+K, 6 K i cannot connect 6K on B. Maybe i'm wrong
     
  14. Unicorn

    Unicorn Well-Known Masher Content Manager Wolf

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    In ver B I saw 6K 43P+K 6_P 43P+K 6K commected on Sarah and Pai many times
     
  15. Unicorn

    Unicorn Well-Known Masher Content Manager Wolf

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    BTW after some testing during this weekend, i learned that 46p 64P+K 6_P 6K is possible against most characters, but it is unreliable, depending on many things like timig, distance and so...
    If you will go for 46P 64P+K P6+PP, it is just 1 less damage, but this juggle is harder to techroll and it is pretty easy to check for opponents failed TR and then go for 8P... I personally whitch for using this juggle in most cases.
     
  16. Unicorn

    Unicorn Well-Known Masher Content Manager Wolf

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    Goh and Blaze added into the 1st post
     
  17. Unicorn

    Unicorn Well-Known Masher Content Manager Wolf

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    During monday, I will update most of the up-to-date released juggle lists with following new-found juggles:
    THR /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (blocked) /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
    * /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif
    - on Lau, Jacky, Blaze and Shun for 82 dmg
    - on Goh for 77 dmg
    - on Lei for 87 dmg

    * /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif
    - on Lion and Sarah for 87 dmg

    * /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif
    - on Brad for 83 dmg (enhanced by 4)

    * Kage and Akira must keep with usual /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
     
  18. Unicorn

    Unicorn Well-Known Masher Content Manager Wolf

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    Aoi and Pai added; update of all other characters lists

    Beside news mentioned one post above, I update following new found juggles:
    * THR /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (MC), against all up-to-date posted characters
    - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (98)
    - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (75)
    - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (75)
    - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (65)

    * /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif MC
    - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (55, enhanced 5) - against Aoi, Pai and Sarah (I think Eileen and Vaneesa will eat this too)
    - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (57) - against Aoi
    - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (57, enhanced 6) - in close stance against Brad
    - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (48) - in open stance against Lau

    currently I am prepearing to complete last 4 characters (Eileen, Vanessa, Wolf, Jeffry), test some new side-crumple juggles and I wish to revise and update all older guides with newer stuff. Hope all this will be comlšete in about 2 weeks, if anyone care /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif
     
  19. Unicorn

    Unicorn Well-Known Masher Content Manager Wolf

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    Eileen and Vanessa added
     
  20. Unicorn

    Unicorn Well-Known Masher Content Manager Wolf

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    Wolf added
     

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