Eileen at Advantage

Yes it does. I use it after the opponent blocks my 2P and tries to counterattack. There are other examples but that's the most effective one for me.

 

there needs to be more discussion about this move, I have no idea when to use it effectively.

 

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yes

 

I personally think 232 to. Be easier to input than 33 and 2_3. Srider why is it that 33 makes 2_3p+k lose some of its evasiveness?

 

btw I tested sweeps strat about using it after your 2p is blocked, and it works. that is freaking awesome.

 

2_3 eats your opponents LP also right fulaani?

 

that i am not sure about, will check it in the dojo later

 

The vs eileen thread says it eats a lot of peoples LP but when I've tried to online I always get hit. There is probably a frame window for this or the timing is just very strict.

 

Anybody know the frames for when this move crushes?

 

There's no "crush" property going on.... it's just the animation of the move makes it possible to go under different mid or low attacks depending on execution/frames, and a variety of factors.

 

Do you know more about the factors. Maybe we could all start testing things out with that move to learn what it goes under. I know it can go under akira's 66P,666P, 66P+K.

Maybe at the end of the day we'll have a chart so us USA players will finally be able to start using the move the Japanese have been horing.

 

33P+K at +1 beats out 2P for a 236KKK juggle, it beats out jabs aswell for and gives the P followup as a juggle.

OM P at +1 beats out everything and gives a light stagger on crouching state moves like 2P.

OM K at +1 beats out mids and gives sidestagger.

 

I wonder if the OM stuff is universal for all chars.

 

Different characters OM's have different evasive properties, that much I know.