Eileen Punishment Chart

A quick, easy guide to Eileen's guaranteed damage:

+10
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif - Fairly standard.
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif - Less safe than /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, it nonetheless creates a strong mix up game between adding the final /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif and throwing after the second hit.

+14
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif - Awesome guaranteed punishment, knocks down, setting up great oki. Thanks to LA Akira for pointing this out during our games yesterday. To use against moves recovering standing -- try /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif if opponent's move recovers crouching.


+17 and above
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif - After guarding highly unsafe attacks, launch with this and finish with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif > /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif

Just wanted to set out a simple punishment guide for Eileen. I will add this to my Eileen's Beginner Guide thread, and will add something similar but more comprehensive to the wiki.

 

PK is actually available from +10 ^^. Altough there are very few moves in the game that are -10 but for ex lion's 3K+G, Lei's P+KP or Jeffry's PKP are one of those so it's good to know you've got something guaranteed on block.

At -10 P3P is also a good option since it puts the opponent in a difficult situation to deal with considering the strong K followup. It's more unsafe but it's worth mixing it with PK now and then.

It should also be mentionned that 4PPK won't punish moves that recover low. Against these moves use 6PP.

 

Cool -- fixed above and added suggestions.

I think in terms of small, medium and large advantage rather than exact frames (anathema in VF, I know, but it's more intuitive to me..) -- so pardon my written frame mistakes. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif Ty for correction.

 

Standing opponent
+10F　 /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif
+12F　throw
+14F　 /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif
+15F　 /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif
+17F　 /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
+20F　 /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif

Crouching opponent
+12F　 /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif
+14F　 /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif
+16F　 /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif
+17F　 /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif

 

I think you mean Lion's 1K+G w/c recovers high-BT and -10 on guard. 3K+G is -22 on guard and recovers low.

 

Yep sorry for the typo