Evil Lion

Jeff's low punch is THAT FAST? Hmm...
Anyway, Lion is not the only character with a "slow" low p,
Jacky/Lau/Akira will also lose out to Kage's low p after
blocking the u/f+k+g. Heck, and I got interrupted out of my
MC dodges several times by the low p(stance?).

Btw, its so EASY to interrupt dodges in VF4, and since the
recovery for a dodge(even MC) is poo, its not possible to
punish 50% of the time, so there is really not much of an
incentive to dodge in VF4. I hope AM2 is fixing this, among
other things in Ver.C/D.

 

I will post counters for Lion.

Red book (ver A) says that Lion's d/f_p,p (creeping pecks) and d/b+p,p both have horrendous recovery time can can be Low thrown when hit (??) amazing huh.
Black book says that d/b+p,p can be low thrown when blocked.
Black book says that b,d/f+P CAN be elbowed but characters with fast elbow when blocked!!! cannot be low thrown.
Most Lion's sweeps can be low thrown when blocked.

d/b+k is inferior to d+k+g as now it can be interrupted by high P.

I dun think d/f+P (MC) guarantees a throw.

Actually I am very curious about Lion's f+p+k move especially on who have initiative after it is blocked/hit. The black book never say much.

 

Btw, its so EASY to interrupt dodges in VF4, and since the
recovery for a dodge(even MC) is poo, its not possible to
punish 50% of the time, so there is really not much of an
incentive to dodge in VF4. I hope AM2 is fixing this, among
other things in Ver.C/D

Yuck... and it's not likely north america will ever get the
upgrades... :-[

 

Red book (ver A) says that Lion's d/f_p,p (creeping pecks) and d/b+p,p both have horrendous recovery time can can be Low
thrown when hit (??) amazing huh.

Sarah's and I'm assuming Jacky's shin slicer (d+K+G) can also still be low thrown even after it hits. This is for Ver B.

 

That's true. As long as the low sweep is not a MC, the standing opponent has the initiative to low throw. I have thrown Aoi after her d+K+G.