Fastest Timing for Commands with Dash Input

Three WIP video clips demonstrating 1-frame delay and 0-frame delay execution of commands with dash input. Example used is Akira's to . CPU is set to Guard and Counterattack with .

 

It can also be inputted BEFORE the first frame of the 12 frame buffer window though (the traditional method). But if you can do consistently what is shown is video 3, more power to you!

According to Ohzeki, this tidbit of knowledge was already known since the VF4 days.

 

Reposting the videos in the original post from Twitter to my YouTube account. Additional details to describe the inputs in relationship to the animation.

Three videos to demonstrate buffering attacks with dash input to execute with 1 frame delay or 0 frame delay. In these examples, 1P Side Akira does P to 66K. 2P Side Akira is CPU set to block & counterattack with 2P. Frame timer starts at initiation of .

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1 Frame Delay: The second forward and Kick input needs to be inputted within Frame 17-27 buffer window.

• Frame 0: input read. Next frame starts executing (12)
• Frame 4: input to prevent accidental execution
• Frame 9: first forward input for move.
• Frame 12: makes contact to an opponent blocking. Opponent -2 frame disadvantage.
• Frame 17: second forward input for move Frame 21: input for move (14 frames to execute after completes animation)
• Frame 27: 1P Side Akira completes its animation.
• Frame 29: 2P Side Akira recovers from guarding . Counterattack with low punch (12 frames to execute).
• Frame 41: 2P Side Akira low punch counter hits 1P Side Akira. with the 1 frame delay should execute at Frame 42.

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0 Frame Delay, Standard Method: The second forward input needs to be inputted either at the first frame of the input buffer window (16) or before.

• Frame 0: input read. Next frame P starts executing (12)
• Frame 6: input to prevent accidental PK execution
• Frame 8: first forward input for move.
• Frame 12: makes contact to an opponent blocking. Opponent -2 frame disadvantage.
• Frame 15: second forward input for move Frame 19: input for move (14 frames to execute after completes animation)
• Frame 27: 1P Side Akira completes its animation.
• Frame 29: 2P Side Akira recovers from guarding . Counterattack with low punch (12 frames to execute).
• Frame 41: Both Akira's attacks executes at Frame 41. 1P Side Akira does more damage than 2P Side Akira low punch; thus 1P Side Akira counter hits 2P Side Akira.

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0 Frame Delay, Sloppy Method: The Kick input must be done one frame earlier than the 2nd forward input within the 12 frame buffer window (Frame 16-27).

• Frame 0: input read. Next frame starts executing (12)
• Frame 7: input to prevent accidental execution
• Frame 12: makes contact to an opponent blocking. Opponent -2 frame disadvantage.
• Frame 16: first forward input for move.
• Frame 22: input for move.
• Frame 23: second forward input for move (14 frames to execute after P completes animation)
• Frame 27: 1P Side Akira completes its animation.
• Frame 29: 2P Side Akira recovers from guarding . Counterattack with low punch (12 frames to execute).
• Frame 41: Both Akira's attacks executes at Frame 41. 1P Side Akira does more damage than 2P Side Akira low punch; thus 1P Side Akira counter hits 2P Side Akira.

 

Why does it matter? Personally, just seeking knowledge. For practical purposes, it depends on the player.

Explanation of how the game interpret your inputs for moves with dash inputs. So for those that wished to buffer a move with dash input and have it execute at 0-frame delay, the above explains the requirements to do so.

For most moves, timing the last command input within the 12-frame buffer window will have the move execute with fastest timing (0 frame delay). Moves with dash input requirement is a bit more complicated.

How the game interprets buffered dash inputs, for example Akira's Rimon Chōchū can either be:

• - 13 frames to execute (0 frame delay); or
  
• forward dash (1 frame) into Rimon Chōchū. 1 additional frame + 13 frames to execute (1 frame delay).

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Where this may be useful (depends on what players want to do):

An Akira player using single palm Jōho Senshō . When that move is blocked, it puts Akira at +1 frame advantage against the opponent. On paper, Rimon Chōchū appears to be a good follow-up option.

• blocked, Akira +1
  • followup (13 frames to execute).

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Buffered 1 frame delay

• blocked, Akira +1
  • followup (1 frame delay + 13 frames to execute). 14 frames
  • Against opponent (1 frame disadvantage + 12 frames). 13 frames
    • Opponent would counter hit Akira

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Buffered 0 frame delay

• blocked, Akira +1
  • followup (13 frames to execute).
  • Against opponent (1 frame disadvantage + 12 frames). 13 frames
    • Akira would counter hit opponent.

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