I don't know if this has been brought up before but; There are some striking similarities between FV2 and VF4, both in animation and backgrounds... I've also noticed (from looking at movies, VF4 hasn't arrived here yet) that the way you react when hit towards the wall/fence is almost identical to FV2... (only without the super gravity, or lack of one perhaps.) Not to mention that the stages seem more or less ripped out of FV2 and stuffed into VF4. Not the backdrops perhaps, but the rest. The best way to check this out (although playing VF4 helps, hehe) is to take a peek at the PS2 TGS-trailer, where they explain the training mode.. The FV2-vibes are 100% in that clip =) When simply looking at Akira, his animation almost resebles Bahn's more than VF3 Akira. In a way, the way they move in general just 'feels' like FV2. As for the VF2 part, I can't say anything about the actual VF4 gameplay, as I havn't played it myself.. But the stagger animations from VF2 are back. The crumples (that's what y'all call them right?) from VF2 are back. The offensiveness could spawn from both games imo (I played VF2 quite offensive but more on the defensive side in VF3. FV2 is an all out mayhem.) From what I gather, it's as if the two games simply merged and became VF4... This could be way off, as I've had no contact with VF4 yet, but I'd love to hear your comments.