The versus city forum has been upgraded from wwwthreads 5.4.1perl to ubbthreads 5.4.4perl. ..and finally, the plus signs no longer disappear when you edit a post! For the curious: the name has changed from wwwthreads to ubbthreads because of the recent acquisition InfoPop made of Rick Baker's awesome wwwthreads. It's essentially the same product, with the same guy working on it, with the same community backing him up. Please let me know of any problems you experience.