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fox news owns you all!

Discussion in 'General' started by Shadowdean, Jul 1, 2004.

  1. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

  2. Fishie

    Fishie Well-Known Member

    Another study showed that the vast majority of Fox vieuwers believe things that are outright false with regards to 9/11 and Iraq(Iraq was involved in 9/11, WMD have been found etcetera) compared to less then half of people who watch other news networks who were convinced of the same things.

    You just showed that Fox is a good propaganda tool thats all.
     
  3. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    Err....you see how many more people watch fox over CNN and MSNBC...thats what I was referring too dude...and that was that most important part of the statistics.
     
  4. stompoutloud

    stompoutloud Well-Known Member

  5. MadCowboy

    MadCowboy New Member

    It is really terrible. When talking to people in the U.S. it hard to understand why people can be so wrongheaded about political matters. The fact that so many people get their info from Fox partly explains this. Fox News is insidious partisan spin packaged as "news."
     
  6. Chanchai

    Chanchai Well-Known Member

    Awww, come on, you know you love the network that makes things so "fair and balanced" in the good ol' US of A.

    /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

    I mean, the only person that makes more sense than Bill O'Reilly is Pat Robertson!!! Fox Sports and 700 Club: when you need to know!

    -Chanchai
     
  7. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    well, it is entertaining!
     
  8. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

    PSN:
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    Fox news owns you all! - OUTFOXED!

    I like this.
     
  9. DissMaster

    DissMaster Well-Known Member

    Re: Fox news owns you all! - OUTFOXED!

    That's funny. A half hour before you posted that, I ordered the DVD online. $13!
     
  10. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    Re: Fox news owns you all! - OUTFOXED!

    its to fair and balanced!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  11. IamthePope

    IamthePope Well-Known Member

    Great Post. shows all these Liberal Hippies that the truth is what people prefer to watch

    Vote Bush 2004
     
  12. Painty_J

    Painty_J Well-Known Member

    Re: Fox news owns you all! - OUTFOXED!

    This is taken from a forum where the writer was addressing a bunch of 3d artists, so you understand why some of the terminology doesn't make sense:

    Attacking the media is retarded

    But the problem in going after the media is that you are going after the symptom, and not the problem.

    Think about it this way. The news corporations produce a product for the consumption of the public. The news businesses produce a product for the consumption of other people. The news people produce a product for the consumption of everyone else. Now, when you make a product, what is the purpose of making it? Don't you want it to be consumed? If your goal is to get people to consume your product, then you will experiment with ways to get them to choose yours over someone else's. So, we have sensationalistic media. You know why? They have all found that is the best way to present their news, to attract the largest share of viewers.

    Now, is it your fault if you paint something yellow and someone else likes it? Is it your fault that you have to put bright frilly extras on it to get other people to buy it? Is it your fault that you have to use DoF blurring and Radiosity to get your pictures noticed? The difference between you guys here and the media is that (in general) nobody here is making a living off their art. If you don't care about whether many people like your art, then no big loss to you right? Now, if you're like the media, who tries to earn a living off of selling news, you DO have to care what everyone likes. Or at least, what is most successful at getting them to view your news.

    The problem is that we all have attention spans of gnats. We're like moths to a halogen lamp. We don't care quite so much for the content as long as the packaging grabs our attention first. Can you blame the media for using this fact against us? It'd be like intentionally refusing to use AA and DoF and Radiosity in your images, and then expecting them to do as well as others that are nearly the same, but with those added features. The media is at the mercy of the public, and any hate the public has for the media is based from the fact that the public has a loathing about these aspects of themselves.
     
  13. Zero-chan

    Zero-chan Well-Known Member

  14. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

    PSN:
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    Fox news owns you all! - OUTFOXED!

    More.
     
  15. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

    PSN:
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    Re: Fox news owns you all! - OUTFOXED!

    [ QUOTE ]
    Painty_J said:

    Now, when you make a product, what is the purpose of making it? Don't you want it to be consumed? If your goal is to get people to consume your product, then you will experiment with ways to get them to choose yours over someone else's. So, we have sensationalistic media. You know why? They have all found that is the best way to present their news, to attract the largest share of viewers.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    That is difficult to argue with. I'm in the advertising business myself and I feel the same way about my client's products. I want them to sell. I do my best to tell their customers what's in it for them. I think "fair and balanced" doesn't apply to Fox News. If they had come out and said "our viewpoints all day and all the time," or "listen to how we think things are," I wouldn't have much problem with what they were doing.

    Sensationalism annoys the shit out of me. I agree that it sells. I counter by not watching it.
     
  16. Painty_J

    Painty_J Well-Known Member

    Re: Fox news owns you all! - OUTFOXED!

    It kinda annoys me when people get all high and mighty about how the media is garbage and they're a bunch of evil bastards, because the media isn't the problem. They're the symptom, not the cause.

    I just try to get everyone to see who's really the cause when I can...You'd be amazed at how many people think that line is a complete load of trash. It all comes down to the media, and other martketers, just being regular people like the rest of us, trying to make a living. You can't fault them for trying to be as successful as possible. They don't magically become evil after going into marketing, nor do they gradually transform into evil people. They're just doing their jobs, to get as many people as possible to listen.
     
  17. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    Re: Fox news owns you all! - OUTFOXED!

    [ QUOTE ]
    They're just doing their jobs

    [/ QUOTE ]

    This is and always will be a poor excuse for making easy choices.

    Operating states should always be in flux and evolving but--I'm sorry--the kinds of backwards thinking that sentence represents is indicative of why the status quo is the status quo.


    GE
     
  18. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

    PSN:
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    Re: Fox news owns you all! - OUTFOXED!

    [ QUOTE ]
    Painty_J said:

    It kinda annoys me when people get all high and mighty about how the media is garbage and they're a bunch of evil bastards, because the media isn't the problem. They're the symptom, not the cause.


    [/ QUOTE ]

    I still agree for the most part. I think that if one person owned all the news media and used it to promote their agenda - well, I wouldn't like that very much if they didn't come out and say it. Media has power, though. It can cause things. I do think people are still responsible for their own actions. I don't want to deny influence.

    Check out these extreme examples: Let's say Ford comes out and says "Our Excursion gets better gas mileage than a Honda Civic." Well, that's bullshit. But if they aired that commercial enough, some people might believe it. Yah, those people are responsible for their beliefs - but environment has an effect. Say I smoked and wanted to quit. It's up to me to quit regardless of what is happening around me - but if I Iived with three people that smoked all the time, it would be a lot harder to quit than if I lived with three non-smokers.

    As far as what to do about the media - well, I'll say that Fox News should drop the use of "fair and balanced." I will not say they have to change their content or ask for legislation to make them change. I like personal freedom. I own a car that gets around six miles to the gallon. I don't drive it but once every two months. It would piss me off if my car was banned from the streets. Therefore, even though I don't like people using Ford Excursions to commute to work by themselves, I will not ask for Ford to be banned from producing them. I'll do what I can to convince people they could get by with less of a vehicle. But I support their freedom to burn as much gas as they want. I don't think extravagant use of resources is a great thing, though.
     
  19. KTallguy

    KTallguy Well-Known Member

    Re: Fox news owns you all! - OUTFOXED!

    You own a 6 MPG car? Wow!!

    I don't even watch US news anymore, I watch BBC on PBS, where they actually talk about a story for 15 minutes. Or I read BBC online. I feel like BBC is the least biased of all the major news networks.
     
  20. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

    PSN:
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    Re: Fox news owns you all! - OUTFOXED!

    [ QUOTE ]
    KTallguy said:

    You own a 6 MPG car? Wow!!


    [/ QUOTE ]

    If I put my foot into it a little it gets 4 mpg. If I floor it, it gets 0.5 mpg.
     

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