Frame Data: Hitting on Different Active Frames

When both players are standing the full 9 active frames cannot be utilised to take 9 off of the disadvantage (so, you cannot go from the regular -12 to being -3). I think this is because Sarah's move just travels so far forward.

I think the best that can be done is used it at max range and it will hit on 8th active frame and you will be -11. This is pretty key as Sarah can then again for a juggle combo if the opponent opts for throw punishment ( is classed as airborne on the 1st start-up frame).

I believe that it may be possible to hit with the last active frame of if the opponent is rising from a knockdown though (really meaty hit).

I don't know why Sarah's is like that really but I messed around with that move quite a bit when I used to play and I could only ever get it to be -11 or there abouts by using max range.

A better example of this last active frame business is the generic sidekick-type moves which are usually -6 on block and can be made to be -5 fairly easily with the correct range - allowing you to use regular fuzzy as opposed to crouch dash fuzzying.

 

Here Sega explain this too with some image
http://www.virtuafighter.jp/dk_45.html

The example is from VF5R so the command list is not the same now

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http://youtu.be/mWD2Is9F3fw

An example that was brought up above, showing Sarah's 9K as early and as late as possible. The frame data display in FS makes active frames very easy to understand.

 

I have question about the frames on throws. I heard that in FS there are no 0 frame throws. I know in vanilla a throw would turn into 0 frames if it was guaranteed(-15 or up) Also in vanilla if an opponent was standing idle the throw would sometimes turn into 0 frames. This was to deter people from just standing still and looking for throw escapes.

So why are there no 0 frame throws in FS? It seemed like the applications of 0 frame throws were practical.