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Discussion in 'Local Scene' started by uk-guy, Jan 18, 2002.

  1. uk-guy

    uk-guy Well-Known Member

    Oh yeah nearly forgot, some stuff with Kage

    Open stance:
    df+P - P - f+K+G - DP


    TT P+K,K - K cancel - F+K+G - DP

    TFT - Knee - P - P - f,f+P+K+G is the best ringout distance TFT - Knee combo

    TFT - Knee - P - P - f+K+G - DP is used alot for damage

    TFT - Wall Hit - DP - u+P simple but very damaging wall combo
    df+P - P - P - d+P+K (Wall Hit) - u+P another damaging wall combo

    TT P+K,K - back dash - u+P haha big foot stompÂÂ@huge damage, kinda reminds me of the old VF2 TFT combo /versus/images/icons/wink.gif

    b,f+K MC - TT PKG - DP (I saw Muscles Sarah do this with his Kage, way cool!)

    TFT - d+P+K - PPb+P - FC,f+K

    f+P+G - f+P back stagger - uf+K+G - d+P+K - DP

    Oh and I saw this Kage player do the following hilarious flow chart on one poor Wolf Player...he must have been trying to struggle low jab or something...
    f+P stagger - dodge P+K+G stagger - f,b+K block stagger - delay df+K stagger - dodge P+K+G stagger - b,f+K block stagger - TT d+P+K (floats) - PKG - DP

    Okay I'm going now...
    *Runs off towards the horizon, arms crossed across his chest shouting EEKOZAY!!*
     
  2. uk-guy

    uk-guy Well-Known Member

    Roy! wayasayin!!

    Man there is this player called Haksun who has a 10th Dan Lau you have to see, unfuckingbelieveable!! And he has a 10th Dan Aoi and Wolf (damn him!!)

    Oh, here's a cheeky Kage combo:

    f+K+G (MC) - P - f+K+G - DP (Blatant!)

    Cya

    EEKOZAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  3. uk-guy

    uk-guy Well-Known Member

    Oh Me, Ryan and Stove are enetering a 3 on 3 tournament tommorow in the C-Chaps (Kyasao, Chibita, Bun-Bun, Haksun etc) aracde.

    We're going to get BUMMED!!!
     
  4. Adio

    Adio Well-Known Member

    Cheers Mo, Muscles Sarah is the closest thing I have to an idol VF wise. What I wouldn't give for a match and a couple of pointers from the guy /versus/images/icons/tongue.gif
     
  5. nycat

    nycat Well-Known Member

    Re: uk-guy defeats SaygallPai

    I got challenged by Saygalls 10th Dan Pai and won, which was nice ...now where did Chibita go... Excellent! Hope to read here your observations on Lion play. Thx for reports and continued good battle. Happy New Year!
     
  6. uk-guy

    uk-guy Well-Known Member

    Akira stuff 4 Jason (and Rodney etc)

    Okay here's the promised Akira stuff J, mostly from Watching Mucky's Emperor Akira and Kyasao's 10th Dan Akira (Kyasao has an Emperor Jeffry and 9th Dan Lion and Shun too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

    ShRm - P - ShRm - DbPm: On LW or MC MW EVERYTIME
    ShRm - P - ShRm - d+k: Standard combo on MW
    Shrm - P - ShRm - DE or b,f+P+K: Easy yet damaging on LW or MC MW
    SDE - f,f+KK: Fave Akira round opener. Do not delay the f,f+KK do it as fast as possible.
    df+P+K - f,f+KK: Another fave round opener.
    If Akira gets satggered do db+P+K, throw esacpes. Mucky does this alot. Works well against Kage for example because you reverse stuff like f+P/df+K/d+K+G/DPK and avoid air-toss!!
    b,f+P+K: Akiras best move to attacl TR because it is hard to dodge. Alos d+P back dash b,f+P+K is devestating. Fully charged b,f+P+K into DbPm is guaranteed.
    ShRm - P - P - b,f+P+K or DbPm: More damaging combos for Akira (like he doesn't have enough!)
    Shrm - P - f,f+KK: Crazy damage! I think it is Open Stance specific.
    b,f+P - P - DbPm or f,f+KK: DbPm is standard combo, f,f+KK maybe stance specific.
    b,f+P+K+G: Useful against rising kicks because Akira moves/evades away before attack dodging moves.]
    Dodge P+K+G: Very useful in tight situationsÂÂBIf you have been MC or staggered use this move to get out of danger. df+P after is guaranteed, you can do u+P sometimes and even AS3 if u can turn around quick enough.
    FC,f+P blocked - do ShRm or df+P+K: Alot of people try to attack after a blocked single plam and get punished!
    (b,d+P+G) FC,f+P (wall hit) - SPOD: FC, f+P is an awesome wall combo starter.
    f,b+P+G flow charts:
    f,b+P+G, P+K - DbPm: Guaranteed if done perfect timing
    f,b+P+G, P+K - f,b+P+G, P+K...
    f,b+P+G - throw
    f,b+P+G - d+P+G - f,f+K - P - ShRm - DbPm
    f,b+P+G, dodge P+K - d+P+G or throw or SPOD
    After f,b+P+G or db+P+G or d,df+P+G do DbPm. If opponent TR you can do df+K back stagger or b,f+P+K
    b,f+P+G stuff.
    If you do f,b+P+G and opponent TR you can hit thme with b,f+P+K...practise!
    b,f+P+G (Wall Hit) - PK - b,f,f+P+K
    b,f+P+G (Wall Hit) - P - f,f+KK
    b,f+P+G (Wall Hit) - P - DLC or AS3
    b,f+P+G (Wall Hit) - P - P - P - DbPm
    ShRm - P - b,f+P - DbPm: Another combo for LW, ridiculous damage!
    When Akira is TR DbPm is a fave attack move followed by ShRm. Akira's also do reverse throw escape which is very effective!
    ShRm - P - P - P - DbPm: Doable but hard!
    df+P+K - throw: Useful throw setup
    df+P+K+G - throw: Another useful throw setup.
    d+P - b+P+K+G,P into SPOD/DLC/f,f+KK/DbPm/b,f,f+P+K: Good flow chart for punishing low jabs!
    How to get maximum damage form HGB+P - b,f,f+P+K:
    HCB+P - WALK 2 steps towards opponets left shoulder - b,f,f+P+K
    For combos like ShRm - P - ShRm - DbPm do a BACKWARDS crouch modified DbPm.
    i.e. df,df,f+P+K - P - df,df,f+P+K - db,db,b,f+P
    For combos after b,d+P+G, f,b+P+G,P+K or d+P+G try extending the DbPm crouch modification.
    i.e. b,d+P+G - df,df,f+P - db,db,db,b,f+P
    After df+P+G - df+P dash as CLOSE to the opponet as possible. If they delay their rising kick or you have supreme timing you can hit them with HCB+P for MC into bodycheck trick for 2/3rd Bar!! (Kyasao does this all the time!)
    Shrm (Wall Hit) - HCB+P - b,f,f+P+K
    DbPm (Wall Hit) - DbPm
    db,f+P+G: If opponent TR you can hit them with b,f+P+K or df+P if they stay down.

    Some Kyasao Kage stuff:

    df+P - P - d+P - d+P - d+P+K,K or DP
    b,f+K (MC) - TT PPb+PK
    [JM] P+K+G sidekick reverse - uf+K+G - d+P - DP guaranteed!!
    TFT - d+P+K - P - FC,f+K - ub+K+G versus LW

    Well that should keep you busy on ver B before C comes out.
     
  7. LauVF

    LauVF Well-Known Member

    Have someone met Ryan there in jp? The english champ.
    I read from famitsu:s page and he seems to be quite popular in jp. He has been already interviewed by famitsu and already been in some tournament 3on3 in shibuya. 7:th dan!!
    He must be really really good player!
    have someone heard some info from him?
     
  8. Prince_Hatim

    Prince_Hatim Well-Known Member

    Yeah he's very strong, and he's 9th dan now.
     
  9. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    Wow, that's very impressive. How often does Ryan visit Japan?
     
  10. uk-guy

    uk-guy Well-Known Member

    Ryan has had 500+ maches as Kage and is 9th dan now. He was challenged by Kyasao twice and won both times, so a couple fo loss's on Kyasaos emperor stats are down to him /versus/images/icons/wink.gif
    He also has a 7th Dan Jacky and 5th Dan Akira.

    I was at 3rd dan (Kage), then my card went haywire. I had to trudge through the lower Kyu's back up to third dan and it looks like my new card has moosed up too /versus/images/icons/frown.gif Oh well I'll just start again if that's the case, well on my way to my 4th Dan target though!

    Stove (Ai Player) had a similar problem when is 5th dan Aoi card broke. he has worked his way up to 2nd Dan now.

    We got further than Kyasao's team in the 3 on 3 which was funny!! I'll type up a report on it in the future.

    Yesterday at West Shinjuku Saygall Wolf and Muscles Sarah were on fire, with 10 and 11 wins versus heads when I left for a bite to eat. Wolfs HCB+P MC is too strong!!
     
  11. LauVF

    LauVF Well-Known Member

    Oh man!
    I’m so jealous at you guys …
    How comes you guys are in jp?
    Its cost a lot to travel to jp, and live there in Tokyo is absolutely not cheep and then playing cost a lot too …
    VF is not so cheep unless you guys are good on it!
    And how about jp languish? I read that Ryan could speak very well, almost perfect!?
    Wow! 9 dan. He is really a “tetsujinâ€Â!
    Do you know if there are someone better player than him in Europe or US?
    He must be the best player outside jp … or soon maybe best player in the world …
    /versus/images/icons/wink.gif
     
  12. Chanchai

    Chanchai Well-Known Member

    Glad you guys are having a great time with VF4 in Japan. Definitely makes me envious. Thanks a lot for the reports, they have at least caught my interest/versus/images/icons/smile.gif

    I look forward to more reports. I also look forward to perhaps playing you guys someday/versus/images/icons/wink.gif

    -Chanchai
     
  13. uk-guy

    uk-guy Well-Known Member

    playing? don't u mean losing? (just kidding!) /versus/images/icons/wink.gif
     
  14. Yupa

    Yupa Well-Known Member

    Re: Akira stuff 4 Jason (and Rodney etc)

    If Akira gets satggered do db+P+K, throw esacpes. Mucky does this alot. Works well against Kage for example because you reverse stuff like f+P/df+K/d+K+G/DPK and avoid air-toss!!

    ...and...

    After df+P+G - df+P dash as CLOSE to the opponet as possible. If they delay their rising kick or you have supreme timing you can hit them with HCB+P for MC into bodycheck trick for 2/3rd Bar!! (Kyasao does this all the time!)

    Akira is a pig...

    When Akira is TR DbPm is a fave attack move followed by ShRm. Akira's also do reverse throw escape which is very effective!

    Yet another good situation to use reverse-throw escape. I hadn't thought of this one before.

    Thanks for all the pointers uk-guy! Great stuff. /versus/images/icons/laugh.gif
     
  15. Yupa

    Yupa Well-Known Member

    Also thanks for the Sarah notes /versus/images/icons/smile.gif

    I got challenged by Saygalls 10th Dan Pai and won, which was nice

    Are the high Dan Pai's using her df+P+K inashi much? I was exposed to this move while we were mucking around after the last Toronto tournament. I believe it has a lot of potential, but I haven't had the time to do much experimenting with it myself... I see using it in situations similar to when you would use attack reverse-throw escape with Akira. Have any Pai players found anything guaranteed after the stumbles created by the mid-level inashi?
     
  16. uk-guy

    uk-guy Well-Known Member

    Regards Pai, there are some awesome Pai players.

    The better ones usually rely on moves like FC, f+P to MC into combos. Segal loves to pull this move off from a standing block position to go under jabs. Once in the air do the following:

    FC, f+P - P - FC, f+P - ff+P,K
    FC, f+P - P - FC, f+P - KK - df+P
    FC, f+P - P - FC, f+P - uf+KK

    Moves like db+P are tasty as is the b+P MC crumple. They use uf+KK if in trouble to stop rushes. db+K+G and b+K+G if you anticpate dodges or TR dodge throw escapes. If you think someone is going to to dodge throw escape (lets say for example Pai has blocked an elbow) than do P,G - throw. The jab will nulify the frames in there dodge guard throw escape so when you do throw, their reverse window has expired, this is a favoured Jacky tactic. PPP - b,b - d+K+G os annoying. f,f+K+G - KK - df+P is the perfect long range rising kick punishment attack. df+P, K+G charged is a great way to ring out.

    Strangley (Kage) FC,f+K - P - df+K - ub+K+G is Kage's most damaging non-wall TFT combo, but it can only be done on certain characters.

    l8rs
     
  17. King_Kong

    King_Kong Member

    I cant wait for you guys to come back to UK.. =)
    Have fun!!!
     
  18. uk-guy

    uk-guy Well-Known Member

    What the f**k! King Kong is alive...and in London!

    Probably scaling Canary Wharf or something...
     
  19. Prince_Hatim

    Prince_Hatim Well-Known Member

    mooky (emperor Akira) went down big time today. I wish I could have recorded some of our matches. Ryan, uk-guy and I were there today.
     
  20. King_Kong

    King_Kong Member

    Yeah boy!!

    /versus/images/icons/laugh.gif
     

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