Goh: Final Tuned

I've seen a type of elbow that makes goh backturned, the commandinput looks to be of the type and it looked really fast. Can someone say anything about this move?

Thx.

/KiwE

 

Aiii, it looks like what they're saying is A2 is definitely better than A1. Another Kage chop problem when people don't have VF.net...

 

great work myke!

couple of thoughts... for the PK combo, the proporties remind me a heck of alot like shun's PK combo. they are both -1 on hit and both cancel into BT, but i dont know what shun's block proporties are off the top of my head. i reckon there are two main uses here.

1. at -1, use shlrm to beat out opp's low P or alot of other attacks for that matter, kindda like when shun uses his mule kick. with this i reckon you could still play a 2 choice game with the opponent with attack or throw, but that's pure speculation.

2. use the BT proporties like shun, the only thing is i dont know anything about goh's new BT game other than he has a new throw, so i dont know how useful that would be.

do you mean that it's actually -12 blocked!? that is really harsh. possibly a silly question, but that doesnt mean that goh will get a guaranteed throw or attack regardless of going BT right?

about goh's A1 and A2, although the A2 seems better, i also heard the original B+P had changed propoties slightly, can someone confirm this? even so i still like to use it for it's incredable advantage setups. i reckon it's still something to toy around with regardless.

the b,f+k now only crumbles on sabaki (which kindda makes more sense other than i wish it had it's EVO.A MC proporties back atleast).

goh's new ff+k sounds incredable!!./versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif what is it's exe?

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edit: do you know anything about his judo roll? does it duck mids?

 

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do you know anything about his judo roll? does it duck mids?

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Goh roll only appears to duck under high attacks. IMO, using it is just asking to be clobbered. Howver, I've only fooled around with Goh and don't seriously play him so this isn't gospel. Goh Just doesn't feel as powered up as some of the other characters, which is a shame because he need it.


kbcat

 

I wonder how much both new rolls (gohs and leis) will be used exept initially against people not used to it. I saw this one Lei vs Van match where everytime the Lei would go into his roll to setup a guessinggame the Van would simply stagger him (although she could've gone for a lowthrow) with a sidekick. A sidekick (that's 16frames) ffs. The Van did it like 3 times and then the Lei stopped rolling simple as that. This was like a big 'wow' for me cause I knew about the risk of lowthrow etc ofc from the first new technique clips but this blew my mind.

Nobody with info about that elbow > backturned yet? It was showcased in goh02.asf on the page of new moves.

/KiwE

 

Wtf am I supposed to do after an MC Knee, these days? 4P+K doesn't come out fast enough anymore. Low-throw? 2_8 K+G? Or are there better options?

 

/lately i've been using /++ to the side the stomach was before the knee, it's no juggle but it does it's fair share of damage if you add the light pounce or ground throw, i for one am glad the ++ is slower, that way you can catch more people off guard by using it against their failed evades

 

Well, don't get your hopes up. I don't have the frame data, so I don't know if the 4P+K misses because it takes longer to come out, or because the stun off of MC Knee is reduced.

 

Now you combo counter hit with +

 

srider, what does that mean? does that mean i get the counter damage for the +, instead of regular damage?

on a counter in evo, you could always get the +,, but the damage was never that satisfying.

 

That means the only guaranteed damage after counter hit is + since you only get +18 in FT.

 

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That means the only guaranteed damage after counter hit is + since you only get +18 in FT.

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aww crap... this means no + rite? sux

 

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That means the only guaranteed damage after counter hit is + since you only get +18 in FT.

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sorry about the misread. for some reason, i read the "now" portion to mean "new to ft."

im beginning to agree with those who think goh has been slightly weakened. is great, but im not sure it makes up for the changes to on counter, sabaki / crumble change, the new 270 motion for the old hcb and the total inability to tack a down punch after a forward 270.

i think ill subscribe to vfnet for a month just to get the tsukame considering his a1 is not great.

 

But don´t forget his SPOD, the throw-punishing RN tool he didn´t have before.

 

While I agree that his new 'SPoD' is cool, so far it has proven to be virtually useless in versus play. Maybe it's our style, I dunno - but the move has appeared to be too slow, etc to be used on any regular basis. Who knows, though, perhaps it's a matter of Goh users to adapt and walk the learning curve to find the move's use.

<font color="yellow">.cheers.</font>

 

Llan, the hit combo throw has it's uses, for example, in certain timing after the low punch sabaki, it is guaranteed. It's just up to the user to understand when to use it. I'll elaborate on it when I do the Goh section.

 

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Llan, the hit combo throw has it's uses, for example, in certain timing after the low punch sabaki, it is guaranteed. It's just up to the user to understand when to use it. I'll elaborate on it when I do the Goh section.

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nice. In Toronto, unless things have changed, we really don't have a dedicated Goh player outside of Shroud who is too busy to play. It is tough to make judgements on the utility of certain moves without having that dedication.

more FT Mook details, Srider! and thanks.

GE

 

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Llan, the hit combo throw has it's uses, for example, in certain timing after the low punch sabaki, it is guaranteed. It's just up to the user to understand when to use it. I'll elaborate on it when I do the Goh section.

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nice. In Toronto, unless things have changed, we really don't have a dedicated Goh player outside of Shroud who is too busy to play. It is tough to make judgements on the utility of certain moves without having that dedication.

more FT Mook details, Srider! and thanks.

GE

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I play Goh. I've been at Metro the last three weeks playing him. Wth is his new SPoD command?