Hello Newbie here

Discussion in 'The Vault' started by Drunken_Master, Dec 18, 2000.

  1. Drunken_Master

    Drunken_Master Well-Known Member

    i got a dreamcast about two mouths ago and i got Virtua Fighter 3 with it, and i thought it sucked. but about two weeks ago out of boredem i gave the game a other chance a discovered a deep fighting game that rivals tekken. anyway do you have any advice on how to play better as i am just starting to get good?
     
  2. SummAh

    SummAh Well-Known Member

    Hello

    Well, to start learning the game, READ THE ARTICLES we've got on this site. IT REALLY HELPS!!!!

    PLUS, Download the mpegs that is on the site, it'll help u to understand better.

    The more u read n the more u play, u'll get better/images/icons/smile.gif

    Oh yeah, for the love of god, DO NOT START WITH AKIRA!
    I've seen too much newbies trying to learn with Akira as their first character, not getting anywhere...then give up the game totally.

    Anyway, read what is on the site, watch those kickass movies on this site, then beep the board when u're really clueless on things.

    Oh btw, VF3tb OUTSHINES TTT...in EVERY DAMN DEPARTMENT!

    SummErs' 'FINISHED MA EXAMS FASTER THAN LIGHTING!!!'
     
  3. Chanchai

    Chanchai Well-Known Member

    Here's a link to a Word Document version of a post Hiro made, back in August. It is here if you want to look for it, but I've isolated it on a document (hope you can read word documents, if not, look back to a thread regarding a VF Club in Maryland). The reason I am pointing this file to you is because it outlines a basis to some VF theory.

    http://www.users.qwest.net/~nsaenguraiporn/vf/vf3/library/general/Hiro's Tips 2000 8 24.doc

    Since you are new, you might have to reread it about two or three times to actually get what Hiro is saying. The key things in the post are in regards to your attack options (Hiro emphasises mid, low, and throws. throws and lows cannot be high blocked. mids cannot be low blocked. high or low block beat high attacks--so you need other incentives for high attacks). And then in Hiro's words, you should try to understand his explanation of "who's turn to attack, who's turn to defend" it's a theoretical concept of initiative for VF. Welcome to mechanical VF theory. It's not everything, but it helps much more often than it hurts imo.

    Beyond that, if you like verbal guidance, check out a faq or even a step guide or something. If you like to work on understanding and playing through numbers, get a system's faq, checkout the VF Formulae faq on gamefaqs (if you dare) and apply it to a fully detailed moveslist.

    For the latter approach (which can be very confusing at first) you can checkout any of the two following links:

    The Virtua Project - http://www.cgocable.net/~kbcat/
    Click on a character, and for the most detailed list for the chosen character, pick the highest number on the bar.

    Rich and GLC's older page - http://world.std.com/~opus/vf

    The advantages to the movelists I just pointed you to are that as far as I know, they are specifically for VF3tb. There are differences between what we know as VF3 (a,b,c, or d) and VF3tb.

    Hope this helps you. I certainly don't want to scare you with information overload. Work at your own pace and enjoy the game and hopefully enjoy the learning process (I know many of us have/are). Back to "basics" and in regards to the Hiro post I made reference to, there's a keyword that I use to tell people just starting in VF to work on: "Active Defense." This goes back to what Hiro talks about in whose turn to attack/defend. Defend isn't only blocking btw.

    -Chanchai
     
  4. SummAh

    SummAh Well-Known Member

    Man it wasn't too long ago:)

    HEHE

    Responding to this newbie's post makes me laugh at the fact I only started to religiously play this game this june:)

    Brings back lotsa good memeories, all of it either playing with a friend who's also really into it. Also, the big fun factor of learning to play vf3 is to go online n read on all the 'big' theories that used to make me go ' ohhhhh....ahhhhhh.wooooowwwww'

    As i recalled correctly, last december I downloaded this faq which was 36 pages long....man back then I did not even know there was a difference in planning my next attack, depending on how the opponent was lying on the ground/images/icons/smile.gif

    Have fun discovering the ins n outs of the game DRUNKEN MASTER....

    More importantly, I hope he come to terms with the way he prefer to play the character. I've seen too much people do exactly what either Gamest or faqs tell them to. Most of them end up being too mechanical.(not just in VF, it applies to many other games as well)

    Me, MAN I FIGHT WITH FEELINGS!/images/icons/smile.gif

    SummErs' 'FINISHED MA EXAMS FASTER THAN LIGHTING!!!'
     
  5. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    LOL...not to start a riot...but the animation and character models of TTT destroy VF3's..
     
  6. Hayai_JiJi

    Hayai_JiJi Well-Known Member

    Yeah the PS2 versionn but that is not what matters it is all about the game play and I personally think the best looking fighter is Soul Caliber.

    Under the surface of the most jaded cynic lies a dissappointed idealist- George Carlin
     
  7. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    I'm assuming you mean the PS2 version since very little
    (if anything) was done to TTT in the arcade. That being
    the case (my assumption) then if TTT *wasn't* better I'd
    have to say it was created by a bunch of space monkeys.
    How many years old is VF3?! Come on, use better bait!

    GE
     
  8. uk_kid

    uk_kid Well-Known Member

    TTT is T3 with knobs on, and T3 is now an extremely tired game in my opinion. saying TTT shows vf3 up is like saying ridge racer 5 shows sega rally up: sega rally still kicks ass over anything in the racing genre (imo, GT included) and is yonks old now.personally, i'd rather play saturn vf2 and sega rally than gran turismo seven and PS2 TTT. TTT is only a get-out for namco anyway, hiding the fact that they haven't come up with another true sequel yet. VF-X will no doubt blow T4 out of the water, and anything/everything else besides. and anyway, TTT's graphics aren't all that advanced. DOA2's graphics are better.
     
  9. SummAh

    SummAh Well-Known Member

    PS2 BAH!

    Yeah well....the current Ps2 games are pretty sub standard.
    When i saw the first DC games being displayed at a retailer(incidentally, it was the Akira spod, DLC intro that made me voted with ma wallet)my jaws hit the ground.

    Strangely enough, upon my initial exposure of the PS2, I went 'this is it?'

    Maybe it's due to fact I've played 128 bit games for over two years before the release of the PS2...

    Then again, some people just don't get it. I've had arguments with a close friend, who insists that
    a)TTT features real moves....VF has fantasy moves (no, could not convince him it was the other way round)
    b)the ps version of T3 has better graphics that VF3 on the DC

    Then again, this customer that comes to the retail store my friend owns has 3 PS2. A pal, jap ntsc n US ntsc version. He HAD to have all three...to complete his Dynasty warriors 2 collection.

    N of course...like all Sony fanatics, they sit in front of their thousand buck console, telling me 'it's a Sony. It's already won the console war'

    So yeah, most sony fanatics have zero idea about great gameplay (those around me anyway).

    And yes...Sega rally rocks!!!!
    So too does Sega rally 2!

    SummErs' 'FINISHED MA EXAMS FASTER THAN LIGHTING!!!'
     
  10. uk_kid

    uk_kid Well-Known Member

    Re: PS2 BAH!

    tekken has real moves? your friend sounds typically ignorant (of the usual 'tekken is better then vf because....'person). so he thinks nina's purple mist move, yoshimitsu (the entire character), and some crappy guy with a jaguar's tale combine to make a more 'realistic' fighter than vf3? the list of tekken's 'fantasy' moves is longer than a gorilla's arm. ps T3 is clearly graphically inferior to DC vf3. i mean, does your (summers') mate actually think jin's painted-on pants and crappy dojo are a match for aoi's sleeves and vf3's dojo stage. namco have blinded an entire generation it seems (except the hardened vf-ers). your mate'll be telling us they used bruce lee himself for the graphics of forest law next!
     
  11. SummAh

    SummAh Well-Known Member

    Re: PS2 BAH!

    I dun blame the guy...his first console was a PS.
    So basically, he was brainwashed from there!

    When he first saw Shenmue, his first reaction was...'Hmmm..PS2 will be better' (SMACK IN THE HEAD)

    Couple of weeks ago, he told me he wanted to get a Honda civic. I told him he should get a Ferrari instead. After all, IT'S BETTER!!!!!

    But after all the bashing we give to TTT...let's not forget, Namco makes fun games/images/icons/smile.gif


    SummErs' 'FINISHED MA EXAMS FASTER THAN LIGHTING!!!'
     
  12. Drunken_Master

    Drunken_Master Well-Known Member

    Re: PS2 BAH!

    BAH i hate sony!( I love Tekken dont diss that game) the ps2 is selling like hotcakes and it sucks. I know this becuase my friend has a Jap and English one and the only game we play on it is tekken tag. Boy i love being the hong kong movie stars Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee in that game er... i mean Lee Long and Forest Law. Amyway what was i on about the ps2 is borring and even Time Spliter is no good really, doesnt compare to perfect dark or goldeneye.Ii hope sega and nintendo dont die out i love my Dreamcast and N64
     
  13. Drunken_Master

    Drunken_Master Well-Known Member

    your links dont work on my computer n/t

    n/t
     
  14. nxw0016

    nxw0016 Well-Known Member

    Another suggestion:

    You need at least a friend to play against. Human vs. Human battle is the only way leading to being good at a fighting game, and the only way to find how deep this game is.
     
  15. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    How much time have any of you put into TTT?
     
  16. uk_kid

    uk_kid Well-Known Member

    not that much, but tons into tekken 3: enough to be able to detect how similar TTT is. after doa, vf and fv, tekken seems shallow to me. forrest law makes jacky seem like a difficult character to become competent with, and hwoarang and eddy have already been slagged by me recently, so i'll leave it there.
     
  17. Guest

    Guest Guest

    well my freinds want to play soul cailber all the time and they dont like virtua fighter
     
  18. Chanchai

    Chanchai Well-Known Member

    Earlier you said the links don't work on your computer, you were referring to the ones I left for you right? Try highlighting them and copying the link and pasting it in your browser (address bar) and see if you can access the pages I left for you. If it's regarding my copy of Hiro's post b/c it's in .doc format, here's the original link

    http://virtuafighter.com/cgi-bin/versus/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=versus&Number=3378&page=&view=&sb=&vc=1#Post3378

    Merry Christmas

    -Chanchai

    P.S. I can understand where your friends would want to play Soul Calibur, it's all too common. Also, you can email me if you want, the address is in the profile. However, I have to warn you that in the last two months, I've been rather slow with email.
     

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