Hmm.. A little Kage help

There is basiclly one thing i dont get.
After ppl do the + throw, they always do the knee.
Why? I mean, the upper + kick (+>) is more dmg?
Someone explain plz! /versus/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

You can techroll the slam from the kick in that series. I suppose that the opponent can damage you afterwards.

 

some of the char like jeff wolf....etc
after u did +, they can hold , then u will miss the second of +,!
against light char and mid weight char +, is safe.
against high weight char u can do the knee or => stagger against the courch!

btw knee is one of the coolste move kage has, and it works on all chars after +, and knee is also mid, so it beat courch too!

cheers
Ogi

 

Aight, thnx m8 /versus/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

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Nybec said:

You can techroll the slam from the kick in that series. I suppose that the opponent can damage you afterwards.

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That is, hold (toward opponent) after the throw, then you can techroll the kick in + and try to punish Kage. If you don't do , the slam is untechrollable.

- Manji

ps. Aoi will just reverse both knee and Dragonpunch.. lol.

 

I'm a little confused.

You can techroll the airkick from the uppercut after being TFT'd?

Edit: Ok, I saw the discussion on how to avoid the Kick after rereading.
You can reverse the midair hits?

Have I just taken one too many flamingo kicks to the head, or is anyone else as confused as I am?

 

, not TFT. how to deal with 'guranteed' hits after kage flips over your head

 

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Myke said:
In a back turned position, Aoi cannot reverse the Knee.


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Whoops, that's true. Sorry! /versus/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

No you can not techroll the slam from + in TFT combos; that is because it's not face up feet towards position. But after +, +'s slam is TR-able, because if you hold (towards opponent Kage) then you will be in face up feet towards position, making it possible to TR or QR the slam, thus possible to punish Kage. And finally no you cannot reverse mid air combo, Aoi can reverse dragon punch because it is mid punch property. That is why the knee is the way to go for heavy weights or Aoi.

 

Ahh. I grow wiser, master. One day I will get that goddamn pebble.

 

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Also, if you think Aoi is going for a back turned reversal, you can hit her with a middle kick with slightly off-timing and produce a back crumble. Then you have a free throw or combo opportunity (e.g. + is guaranteed here).



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Is this one of the unstagerrable backstaggers or is it one where you can stagger out of it?

 

back crumple is the unstrugglable one, you'll often see it if you MC a turn around attack with something like sidekick

what followups can be done after , knee? I've seen a couple low punches that seemed guranteed, but it looks to me like there are untechable combos for some characters.

 

The unTRable combos from + are only started with a back stagger, usually from , but to do this is risky just because it's not guaranteed worth crap, reversable by some characters, and guardable by all. Just follow with a knee or if the opponent isn't Aoi or Heavy characters, dragon punch combo.

 

+ is garunteed after ++. Aoi is the only character that can reverse it.