How many throw escape can be input when doing TEG

I tried to input 2 TE in dojo mode. But I failed.

I can do 1 TE with Guard. If I do two, the animation of throw will

be come out and I get hit.

By the way, is TEG (throw escape guard) useful ?
I mean compare it to ETEG.

 

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I think the limit is around 4 to 6 for ETEG, i'm not sure though. I can't input more than one throw escape during ETEG either.

I think ETEG is for when you are unsure if your opponents going to do a linear attack or throw when you're at disadvantage. If you're pretty sure their gonna throw just use Throw Escapes, it's easier to input more Throw Escapes that way.

 

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I do 1 escepe when evading. I try to do 3 if I'm in a big disadvantage.

 

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6???!! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif

I think 4 is the absolute limit, E-QTE-G is extremely difficult and near enough useless within a match, E-DTE-G is the usual amount people opt for I believe.

4 is also the limit without inputing that evade, not sure if you can do QTE-G tho, it might be possible but TTE-G might be the limit in that case (in order to get the G to register at the end without having to perform it like Akira's knee).

 

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I'm sure KoD tested it out ( ETEG ) with the programmed stick thing and six was possible, maybe i'm getting confused. It could just be 4 for ETEG, Even so, it's probably impossible to pull off.

4 is definitely not the limit for just throw escapes our shitty human hands can only pull 4 off though /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif

 

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Back in the VF4Evo Challenge section, there was a test to QTE against Jeff after a guaranteed throw situation. You had to do this 3 times in a couple of minutes or something. When you did the challenge, the legitimate throw escpaes you entered would show up on screen, i.e. the TEs you entered and were legitimately considered as TEs.

At Evo2003, Ryan Hart managed to perform E-QTE-G in this challenge. So that's an evade, 4 TEs and then G to register as a standing guard at the end to block any moves your opponent may have used (instead of them trying to throw). Myke may still have the vid of it I don't know. In order to do this, it took many many attempts (as far as I'm aware).

Now, in order to prove you can actually do 6 TEs (with a programmable stick) as you say, you would need some on-screen indicator to say that each TE was legitimate, i.e. that the VF5 game engine accepted them as valid TEs. Is it possible to set this up??

I know the limit of TEs in VF3 was only 2 (the game engine would only allow 2 different throw directions). In VF4 I belive this went up to 4. In VF5 I don't know officially, but realistically you will never break more than 3 directions at once in a match, that's pretty much insane input skills. 2 is the standard thing good players would go for.

Does anyone know officially how many TEs the VF5 engine will actually allow?

 

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Small nit pick. VF3 allowed two Throw escapes: One Command and one neutral P+G. inputted at the same time, P+G throws beat x+P+G throws so this system allowed you to break a command throw based on yomi and protect against a vanilla P+G throw (as well as a command error by your opponent that would result in the same).

Pretty nice system, I thought.

GE

 

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I'm sure there was a thread where KoD tested it out, can't seem to find it though. Maybe it got lost in the site crash.

 

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I can do three easily in dojo but I'm not that consistent in reaal playing. Moreover, I just do not enough pay attention about the moments in which I should enter my throw escapes.

 

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to asnwer the question abote TEG vs ETEG. Use ETEG at medium disadvantage. at -7 to lke -11. and TEG at bigger disadvantage.

 

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you can use TEG at small dis. too as a safter way to deal with nitaku situations.

 

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So when doing the mulitple TE thing you have to hit /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif at the end for all your TE to register?

 

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i remember vf4evo TEG and ETEG.I spent a year practicing the TE sessions alone. i think the first session was tough for me since it required a guaranteed throw move and 4 inputs of TEs during recovery. i could only do 3 until i actually put 2 p+g on the ps2 controller L1 and X buttons. the vf4 tutorials sure help me learn alot about vf

 

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No, your TE's will register regardless. Hitting the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif at the end keeps your last TE from coming out as a throw attempt.

 

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Ahh ok I see, to escape throws and block incase they decide to attack, that's crazy. Thanks man

 

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about how long is the TE window?

 

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IIRC 11 frames before the throw, and 11 frames after. Or was that 10 and 10? >_<

 

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depends.

normal grab throw: 10 frames before a throw actually lands, up until 11 frames after it connects.

0-frame throw: up until 11 frames after the throw connects.


just an aside: if your opponent catches you with a normal throw during an evasion attempt, it is a 0-frame throw.