How to do low throw?

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Judging by your comments, I should try to perform all the moves using only 3 standard buttons.

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Exactly. That's the best way to play and get better at VF. You can play with programed buttons, but that will only hinder your gameplay. Not to mention that everyone in Japan plays with three buttons.

 

No questions -- arcade stick is fairy players' choice.
Now, i play onto a little bit edited TYPE B (x--->, square--->, circle---> erased functions above L1, R1).
Guys, you are right. Someone, me e.g., can't yet effort this brilliant sticks, but maximally must seeing for it in the future. I do dream to buy, however.

ps for a little unconvenientable to tap +.
For the right things sake, it isn't FAIR to play onto joypads in VF -- the REAL atmosphere will piss off.

 

Playing with programmed buttons does not hinder you. It gives an advantage. Having one button assigned for use of 2 or 3 buttons will improve your execution. BUT, as stated the arcade setup only has three buttons. All major competitions (EVO) will NOT let you use mapped buttons for this is not available in the arcade format.

So if you just mean to play alone against the CPU, then do what you like. If you wish to compete against people then I highly suggest you train yourself to only use the basic 3 button setup.

 

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No questions -- arcade stick is fairy players' choice.

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Ouch! We just got owned...called fairies and shit!

 

When I'm using pad I triangle=punch , circle=kick and R1=guard it's comfortable to me that way


Otherwise I use my Tekken 5 stick

 

Here is my controller specs: x=k, circle=k, trianlge=p, square=g, R1=p+k, R2=k+g, L1=p+g, L2=p+k+g.

This may seem like the cheater way, but it's what I use for comp and it's pretty easy actually.

 

It's no big deal just use what works for you

 

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Akira_PH said:

Here is my controller specs: x=k, circle=k, trianlge=p, square=g, R1=p+k, R2=k+g, L1=p+g, L2=p+k+g.

This may seem like the cheater way, but it's what I use for comp and it's pretty easy actually.

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It should be about skill, not the controls.
I use a pad too and my controls are similar even with human players. Execution shouldnt be a problem in high level so pretty much only noob/idiot/loser could call you a cheater for using side buttons.
And pad has so small buttons it is just stupid to try executing moves using only triangle, square, X and O.
With stick having only 3 buttons is really not problem since they´re designed for that, pad is not.

 

i agree

 

Oh I agree, it's just that this is the way I first became good at VF, with that setup. But when I use the stick I obviously use only three buttons.

The only thing is that some people seem to think that you should play with three buttons even on pad, which IMO is way too difficult. I mean, I wouldn't have any problem executing the moves, it's just that as you said the buttons are too small to use only triangle and x and circle, so you are forced to utilize your L and R buttons as well.

 

I still use a pad because I'm too cheap to buy a stick (cheap financially not morally, although I do use Kage /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif) and I use the standard 3 button controls (type C) like a stick player.

Execution isn't a problem and I don't find it harder than when I first started and was using the gay shoulder button config.

When you have multiple commands assigned to one button it does give you an unfair advantage however minimally it might affect your matches (two buttons for each throw escape, easier struggling due to hammering on L2 etc).

I think if a stick user should have to press each button seperately then so should a pad player, and if that causes execution to be a problem then the pad player just has to put in the practice like everyone else until it isn't.

Hopefully you wont think I'm a noob/idiot/loser.

Edit: One more thing (just read over your post again), it should be about skill but doesn't it take less skill to press fewer buttons to achieve something that takes your opponent more effort for exactly the same result?

 

To me when I to Las Vegas I saw there was an Arcade
and Lord and Behold I saw VF4. I played as Vanessa
and to me it was not hard to play with the stick and buttons.Plus it was my first time to play that way.

 

Just think of how easy it is to do throw escapes when all you have to press is 'Left + R1, Right + R1, Down + R1..... it means that even the most amateur of players can do ETTEG without fail.

If the game was meant to be played with more than three buttons, then they would have put more that three buttons in the arcade......

 

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Ev2 said:

If the game was meant to be played with more than three buttons, then they would have put more that three buttons in the arcade......

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if all you were meant to post was 'huurrrrrrrrrr' then all you would post would be

oh wait

 

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One more thing (just read over your post again), it should be about skill but doesn't it take less skill to press fewer buttons to achieve something that takes your opponent more effort for exactly the same result?

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Um, no? Like I said, in high level execution shouldnt be a problem. It doesnt take much of a skill to press two/three big buttons at same time. If it is problem to someone, all I can say they need more practise.
It would be advantage to stick users if pad players had to go with tiny buttons.
I´d have hold it some weird way if I used just O, X, triangle and square, but I wouldnt do that just to please some stick player whose execution sucks.

I just repeat, stick is designed to 3 buttons, pad is not.

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Just think of how easy it is to do throw escapes when all you have to press is 'Left + R1, Right + R1, Down + R1..... it means that even the most amateur of players can do TTEG without fail.

If the game was meant to be played with more than three buttons, then they would have put more that three buttons in the arcade......

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Did you even read my post?
And you obviously havent played with a pad. Local new players cant even DTEG without fail, and they´ve played months. Shoulder buttons doesnt make pad players execution perfect, it just gives help they need.

But if someone can play with small buttons, it is ok...but it is stupid to try forcing yourself using setup that wont work for you. If someone wants to play 3 buttons they should just get a stick.
I´ll probably someday, but I´d rather save the money for something else now.

 

I use the "tiny buttons" fine and my win % against human (stick) comp is pretty high.

And you don't need to hold the pad weird, you just rest it on your knee like a stick. If you need to use all the gay ass multiple button assigns then your the one who's execution sucks not the stick player.

And the other guy (Ev2) has played with a pad using the exact same setup as me.

Just to clarify, there's nothing wrong with using shoulder buttons if you want but it's just cheap to assign multiple commands to them.

Cheap, cheap, cheap.

 

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Elite said:
One more thing (just read over your post again), it should be about skill but doesn't it take less skill to press fewer buttons to achieve something that takes your opponent more effort for exactly the same result?

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Um, no? Like I said, in high level execution shouldnt be a problem. It doesnt take much of a skill to press two/three big buttons at same time. If it is problem to someone, all I can say they need more practise.
It would be advantage to stick users if pad players had to go with tiny buttons.
I´d have hold it some weird way if I used just O, X, triangle and square, but I wouldnt do that just to please some stick player whose execution sucks.

I just repeat, stick is designed to 3 buttons, pad is not.

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Just think of how easy it is to do throw escapes when all you have to press is 'Left + R1, Right + R1, Down + R1..... it means that even the most amateur of players can do TTEG without fail.

If the game was meant to be played with more than three buttons, then they would have put more that three buttons in the arcade......

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Did you even read my post?
And you obviously havent played with a pad. Local new players cant even DTEG without fail, and they´ve played months. Shoulder buttons doesnt make pad players execution perfect, it just gives help they need.

But if someone can play with small buttons, it is ok...but it is stupid to try forcing yourself using setup that wont work for you. If someone wants to play 3 buttons they should just get a stick.
I´ll probably someday, but I´d rather save the money for something else now.

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I have never seen such dribble in all my life (bar the average RandomHajile post).

Let's start from the beginning.
You talk about execution not being a problem at high level play because 'It doesn't take much to press two/three big buttons at same time".
Well if that is true, surely everyone who plays at high level would be able to do EQTEG 100%. Tell me the last time you saw this. Surely if high level players has no problems with inputs, you would see them all recovering as fast as is possible from staggers, all Lei Fei players stance-dancing perfectly, all Akira players using the perfect knee 100%, everyone using ARE and box-stepping to perfection????

The fact is that inputs are meant to be challenging, and without constant concentration and alot of skill, they will be input errors. I haven't seen anyone play who can do EVERYTHING 100%.
As for stick users having an advantage, I am much inclined to think that the person who has 'Throw Escape' and 'Tech Roll'. assigned to one button has the advantage. Not to mention the fact that you can hammer on all the buttons on the pad, making staggering and rolling from the ground much easier.


Next point, you said "I just repeat, stick is designed to 3 buttons, pad is not".
So I will repeat, IF THE GAME WAS MEANT TO BE PLAYED WITH MORE THAN THREE BUTTONS, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE PUT MORE THAN THREE BUTTONS IN THE ARCADE...

Your next embarrassing remark was something about me not using a pad.
I played on a pad for a long time, and for a long time I was winning consistently, and I was using the same set-up as everyone else, so don't try preaching to me about how to use a pad.

The fact is, you are cheating. Think about it, if someone was to have the entire input for SPoD on one button, would you have a problem if someone had the max damage Yoho on one button, what about EQTEG???
Where do you draw the line?
Who are you to change to mechanics of the game?
IT WAS DESIGNED TO BE PLAYED ON THREE BUTTONS, SO PLAY IT WITH THREE BUTTONS....

 

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Just think of how easy it is to do throw escapes when all you have to press is 'Left + R1, Right + R1, Down + R1..... it means that even the most amateur of players can do TTEG without fail.



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1) And just how do you hold G in the end of that sequence genius?
2) You can't do TTEG ingame. Period.
3) Travel distance, and hence speed, between inputs as 4p+g and 6p+g becomes slower on a pad then on a stick, your thumb doesn't move as fast as a flicking wrist. That's why people buy sticks in the first place.

And then your next post goes to say that execution is a problem in highlevel play and honestly seem to believe that execution is easier with a pad in general? That, my friend, is drivel - not Aoi_Me's post. You shouldn't use words like 'drivel' or 'embaressing' in the first place when you're not sure of your thing.

"As for stick users having an advantage, I am much inclined to think that the person who has 'Throw Escape' and 'Tech Roll'. assigned to one button has the advantage. Not to mention the fact that you can hammer on all the buttons on the pad, making staggering and rolling from the ground much easier."

Go ask 2d players to do Giefs 360x2 throw with pad telling them they're at a advantage.

"The fact is, you are cheating. Think about it, if someone was to have the entire input for SPoD on one button, would you have a problem if someone had the max damage Yoho on one button, what about EQTEG???"

You can't bind SpoD to a button from within the game, you can bind buttons. It's not cheating, no matter how much you want it, unless your playing a tourney where the rules clearly state it as such. No matter how you try to generalize (and poorly so).

If you loose to a pad player he's playing better then you, no matter what binds within the game he has. End of story morning glory.

/KiwE

 

Pad, shoulder button using players still have to guess the throw escape direction or whether to throw escape at all. The mind game is a bigger part of the game than the button presses in any situation. I practice for hours so that button presses won't be a problem and i expect my opponents not to mess up as well. In fact i would love to play against someone who never mess up their inputs. It will just help me to become a better player.

 

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