I am a VF.....

Discussion in 'Junky's Jungle' started by Adio, Sep 24, 2001.

  1. Adio

    Adio Well-Known Member

    A little bit of trivia here. On the select screen in verB. Below the regular stats, sex, weight and height etc. There is a new addition, the second last stat is the fighters fighting style but, what's interesting is that the last stat is their rank within their fighting style.

    For example; Akira and Shun are masters of Hakkyoku-Ken and Drunken Fist respectively. Lau is an intermediate in Koen-Ken and the Bryants are both beginners in Jeet Kune Do.

    I found this very entertaining as it gives more of an insight into their character rather than their effectiveness. As any fighter can beat the other in this game.

    In keeping with the story (what little of it there is), I'm not surprised that Akira is a master of his style. He's a teacher of the art and gets regular lessons from his father. Shun is obvious, you don't practice something for decades and don't expect to be a master by the time your eighty plus. But, Jacky being a beginner in JKD was a surprise. All he does is train so I expected him to be an intermediate. JKD is more philosophy so in theory you can never be complete as there is always something you could tweek or adapt to improve your style. I expected Sarah to be a beginner though, not because she's weak but because she was never really a fighter before the tournaments. Ie (Poetic licence here) she just did it for the exercise. It was J6 that turned her into a fighter and when Jacky got her back (by beating the hell out of her IMO) at the end of VF2, which resulted in her total memory loss she would have forgotten the finer points of the style (Philosophy) but retained the fighting instincts and techniques (reflex). So from VF3 to VF4 Sarah would be starting from scratch, making up her own moves instead of the ones given to her by the J6 eg. From VF3 the Snap Back knuckle is replaced by the Chop (look in your VF2 manuals for the former) and VF4 sees the introduction of the Flamingo.

    I've gone off course here but you get the drift i'm sure. In the future when everyone has access to VF4 in the states or, if anyone here in the UK is going to the Casino, I would like them to make a note of each characters rank. So far we know:

    Akira: Expert.
    Shun: Expert.
    Lau: Intermediate.
    Jacky: Beginner.
    Sarah: Beginner.

    There are eight other fighters that need to be a addressed.

    Adio.
     
  2. akiralove

    akiralove Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    JTGC
    Adio

    I mentioned this earlier in my post about Sarah, but that stat refers to what "level" of character they are, with reference to play style. IE Akira is an "advanced" or "expert" level character, like Shun; whereas the Bryants and Pai are good for beginners. I think wolf and jeff are both middle, as are lion and aoi. not sure about everyone.

    Spotlite
     
  3. Adio

    Adio Well-Known Member

    Oh, Ok then. Cheers, lets leave it at that.

    Adio.
     
  4. GLC

    GLC Well-Known Member

    There's no such thing as "beginner" and "expert" characters; it's not the matter of character, it's all about understanding how the game flows and what it's about. I've seen many players that use eg. Akira, and are considered "good" but have no idea what is VF really about. They usually get beaten up badly by experts anyway.
     
  5. Adio

    Adio Well-Known Member

    Thats not the point me and spotlite were descussing. the terms were desegnated by AM2 themselves to help guide beginners on which characters would be easier to pick up and play. It would be awful for some young kid to pick Akira and get killed in the 1st round. By looking at the recomended Level the kid can gauge himself/herself and pick someone who will at least give him/her a chance (the Bryants) and hopefully encourage him/her to continue playing.

    Everyone here is well aware of Character effectiveness being dependent on the players skills. Anyone can beat anyone else with the right tatics.

    Adio.
     
  6. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    Huh...that's an interesting stat to display, though a bit weird/unexpected. What's Kage?
     
  7. Adio

    Adio Well-Known Member

    Haven't got a clue mate, that's why I started the post lol.

    Adio.
     
  8. Akora

    Akora Active Member

    Hey, Adio
    Raise some more effective and yummy flamingo tactics of Sarah which you've got from a couple of days' fights if any, please !!!
    These days I am always playing Sarah only other than Akira that was my main weapon, shit. Maybe I'll change my VFDC id to Sorah or something someday, haha..

    P.S. yeah, here in Seoul, finally we've got one ver.B so far. Korean VF comrades are getting crazy and crazy digging into it every night and day...
     
  9. CreeD

    CreeD Well-Known Member

    That is kinda neat: I'm gonna guess that Kage is an intermediate-high ninja (whatever his art is), Wolf is a master pro wrestler, Jeffry is a master at pancratium, lion is a beginner-intermediate at mantis, aoi is an intermediate at 'aiki-jujitsu' and taka is .. well, not there. Bummer.
    No guesses about Vanessa. Lei fei could be a beginner.


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  10. akiralove

    akiralove Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    JTGC
    exactly. I like it that they added the "level" stat for people to see.

    I THINK it goes like this:

    beginner:
    Jacky
    Sarah
    Pai
    Lei (?)

    intermediate:
    wolf
    jeffry
    lion
    aoi
    kage
    lau

    expert:
    akira
    shun
    vanessa

    again, that's if I remember correctly

    Spotlite
     
  11. Adio

    Adio Well-Known Member

    LoL, I'm touched Akora. Sure mate. This is off the top of my head mind you (I don't believe in notes. Instinct is everything to me). So please bare with me:

    Key:

    FL>Flamingo stance moves.
    MC>Major counter.
    Light>Light characters, all the girls especially Aoi.

    Various Routines.

    1. df+PK, FL: u+K

    2. f+K, df+PK, FL: u+K

    3. db+K, df+PK, FL: u+K

    4. f+K, df+PK, FL: df+PK, FL: d+K+G, b or uf+P

    5. d+P+K, d+KK

    6. u/uf+K, G cancel, PPK (everyone) or PPPK variant (MC otherwise light or wall bounce only)

    7. FL: f+K (stun), FL: f+K+G, d+P+KK (MC otherwise light only)

    8. FL: f+K, FL: u/d+P+K, FL: d+K+G, b or uf+P

    9. f+K, f+PK

    10. f+K, f+Pdf+P

    11. f+K, b+K, FL: d+K+G, FL: b or FL: uf+P

    12. u/f+K+G, db+K, b+K, FL: d+K+G

    13. db+K, f+K

    14. u/f+K+G, db+K

    15. f+K, db+K, db+K (Light)

    Flamingo Stance.

    The following can be started with any of the Flamingo activators:

    P+K = Priority>power>speed>range.
    b+K = Speed>priority>power>range.
    b+P+K = Range>power>priority>speed.
    df+PK = Priority>speed>range>power.

    But, for the sake of things I'll use P+K (it's my favourite) as it has the best priority and strength compared to the others IMO

    1. P+K, FL: d+K, FL: d+K+G, FL: b or FL: uf+P

    2. P+K, FL: d+K, FL: df+K, FL: u+K

    3. P+K, FL: d+K, FL: u+K

    4. P+K, FL: df+K, FL: f+K (stun), FL: u+K

    5. P+K, FL: df+K, FL: f+K (stun), FL: d+K+G, FL: b or FL: uf+P

    6. P+K, FL: df+K, FL: f+K (stun), FL: f+K+G, d+P+KK (MC otherwise light only)

    7. P+K, FL: df+K, FL: f+K (stun), FL: K+G

    8. P+K, FL: df+K, FL: K+G, df+K+G

    9. P+K, FL: d+K, FL: df+K, FL: K, FL: f+K (stun), FL: u+K

    10. P+K, FL: d+K, FL: df+K, FL: K, FL: f+K (stun), FL: f+K+G, d+P+KK (MC Light only)

    11. P+K, FL: d+K, FL: df+K, FL: K, FL: f+K (stun), FL: d+K+G, FL: b or FL: uf+P

    12. P+K, FL: d+K, FL: df+K, FL: K, FL: f+K (stun), FL: KKK, FL: b or FL: uf+P

    13. P+K, FL: d+K, FL: df+K, FL: K, FL: f+K (stun), FL: KKd+K, FL: b or FL: uf+P

    14. P+K, FL: d+K, FL: df+K, FL: K, FL: f+K (stun), FL: KKK+G, FL: b or FL: uf+P

    15. P+K, FL: PPK

    16. P+K, FL: Pd+K

    17. P+K, FL: PPPK variant

    18. P+K, FL: df+PK, FL: PPPK variant

    19. P+K, FL: df+PK, FL: Pd+K

    20. P+K, FL: df+PK, FL: u+K

    21. P+K, FL: df+PK, FL: df+K, f+K (stun), FL: u+K

    22. P+K, FL: df+PK, FL: KKK, FL b or FL: uf+P

    23. P+K, FL: df+PK, FL: KKd+K, FL b or FL: uf+P

    24. P+K, FL: df+PK, FL: KKK+G, FL b or FL: uf+P

    25. P+K, FL: u/d+P+K, FL: u/d+P+K, FL: d+K+G, FL: b or FL: uf+P

    26. P+K, FL: u/d+P+K, FL: u+K

    27. P+K, FL:df+K, FL: u+K

    That's all I can come up with right now but I hope you see my pattern of thought. Within the Flamingo, excluding the canned combos (KKK variants) and the kicks that knock down an opponent, everything can be chained into everything else.

    Though I haven't actually performed a few of these moves, I have been able to add them from the knowledge of a few fights. Still, feel free to check them and amend or dismiss what you don't agree with. I' will gladly except your views as for the next couple of weeks I'm going to be out of action raising funds for my training lol. .

    There is so much to do with her. And I haven't even got to the Link Throws...

    Hopefully in a years time I will.

    Adio.
     
  12. Jacky_X

    Jacky_X Member

    I'd also expect Jacky to be an intermediate.
     
  13. feixaq

    feixaq Well-Known Member

    Jacky, intermediate?!?


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  14. Nicky Wan

    Nicky Wan Member

    All the beginner characters are easy to get to grips with but to win matches later on against better players takes a lot more thought.
     
  15. feixaq

    feixaq Well-Known Member

    Um, have you even seen the 7th dan Jacky players in the Kanispo or Yokohama clips? They all do the exact same thing - BKC, f,b+P+G, uppercut, auto-inashi, f,f+K, double side kick... and they all get pretty damn far in the tournament.


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  16. Akora

    Akora Active Member

    Great, Adio.
    Thanks for the post for Sarah. Wish I could fight with you with flamingo mind game.. You'll come my way ? or I do? haha...
     
  17. Adio

    Adio Well-Known Member

    No problem. Happy hunting.

    Adio.
     

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