If your favorite character could get 3 new moves...

Hi all- I'm an obvious stranger and this thread will likely gather dust, but what the hell, right? I'm Psycko, VF4's the bomb, AND I AM ALL ABOUT THE LION OVER HERE!! (end Family Guy nonsense)

I haven't gotten Evo yet, so maybe my wish list is covered, but...if you were going to add three moves or counters or whatever to your char, what would they be? For my man Lion, I would say

1. A badass ++ ducking block counter. One of my friends (a former Pai, current Shun Di) is ALWAYS doing this so I can't toss him around the arena. So sweet it would be if I could have Lion clamber up on his shoulders monkey-style and drive his head into the mat for daring to pull defense on me!

2. An alternate stance. Lion's one of the only chars without one- maybe he doesn't need one. Instead of it being like a Lei-Fei or Shun Di stance you have to cancel out if you need to do something else, I'd have it be more like Pai's stances- he only does it for a moment, so you can either drop it or go into something wicked. Ideally, I'd give him either the Daniel-san crane stance for some nice mixing-up or a hands-and-knees monkey stance. From there- a nice 4 or 5 hitter to make your friends go "DAY-UM!". Yup.

3. A follow-up throw to his + throw. I'm not very good at capitalizing on that throw- as soon as I slide between the legs, I end up pulling out his no-range knee by accident. It irks me so. But it'd be good if, say, after you come up behind them, hit + and he'll grab their legs to trip them up then hop and stomp onto their backs.

Do those three turn any fellow Lion players on? What three moves would you guys do?

 

I'd give Goh an ewgf (special mid), /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif ; a mid kick and knee reversal ; a and + combo with being a delayable knee that crumples on MC and + being a low kick that stuns on MC similar to +.

Jeffry : I'd give him takedowns ; ground throws and a high punch parry.

Lion's almost perfect I don't have any ideas for him now.

 

Wolf:

++ throw, similar in properties and damage to Jeff's throw of that direction.

Take out his old knee, and put it back in again, except at -7 /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Give him a + follow up to the roar stance, which would stagger the opponent.

 

I'd give goh a two hit canned combo that scraped people really low off the floor in floats. Its use outside of floats would be whatever - set up an attack or throw guessing game. Think of jeffry's dashing elbow-uppercut.

I'd give him a quick and unsafe (-12) float starter to complement his b+P+K (slow but safe). It wouldn't float except on interrupt and the float would be higher than b+P+K, allowing for something more creative than P P K. It could animate like a mini yoho.

Finally, I'd give him a FC upper type move. I know everyone else gets one, but there's no reason he shouldn't get something like a single palm that leads to a hit throw. It'd be stronger than his other hit throws since it'd require a crouch first and execute slower than f,f+P.

 

I would give shun a hit throw, something off of a funky looking punch or kick (would also have to be a new move). I would give shun a move that would stagger an opponent like Jacky's eye-poke move. I would finally give him an evade move from his b+k move. THis would help make him a bit more multi-dimensional, also give him an evading move which can be used while he is moving forward from the b+k move.

 

I´d want Akira have more moves to turn around, current move executes too slowly, It should be something like Kages , that fast. And definitly more attacks like SPoD and knee. Then, I´d want more attacks that can be cancelled, than just and .

 

Mines are more style based than anything I guess. I'm a fuck around type of guy I guess.

I'd give akira back his low kick cancel.

I'd like a better reason to use his stance. I can't really think what you could do with it that wouldn't make it too out of character. Make the actual backwards movement faster maybe. Being able to cancel it would be nice.

I really can't think of a third, evo akira is virtually perfect imo and I feel like asking him to be improved gamewise would just be taking the piss. I think a new throw, not a new direction, just a new throw. Make it share one of the three strong directions he already has. Just something new and cool looking to play around with.

 

I'm a pai player so for me i guess i would have to give all of her old throws back. Her new ones are just terrible.

 

I'm a pai player so for me i guess i would have to give all of her old throws back. Her new ones are just terrible.

 

LOL ya i really think shun should get an eye poke, that would just be a howl. He should like wave his left hand around and then poke you in the eyes with his right like 3 stooges style LMAO, would be so funny and fit shun's funny ways. It should recover really slow and just be for the funniness of it or something, obviously there shoul be some follow ups though.

 

I'd give Aoi a new throw that goes in a new direction, but doesn't do much damage (but gives a "free" GT afterwards).

I'd also give her a new low throw for +++ that maybe drags them towards her rather than the other way around.

I'd change her two-footed reversal to where she grabs their feet and flips them either onto their head or so they end up face-down head-towards. You could tech roll the landing and take no damage or she could possible float combo you a bit if the move is high enough (like Pai's +, or Wolf's dropkick). I'm happy with having an evade, I suppose, but a lot of the time it leaves you with a slight disadvantage (like Pai's +[k][k]) which isn't exactly what reversals are about

 

I was so looking forward to the double-foot reversal in Evo, only to find an evade. For something like Sarah's or Lei's kicks, it would work. For Kage's though, it would just not look right. I tend to think that had something to do with it.

I agree w/ you on the new low throw, but I think 4 directions is enough for a "throwing" character.

I'd do the following for Shun:
-Hit throw (as stated previously) or Catch throw
-Make a bit more useful
-Drop the -3DP's for his new throw in Evo.

 

if the world were a better place, vanessa would have:
1. a g-cancelled kick out of ds
2. her crouch-dash throw in both stances
3. a standing punch in ds that isn't elbow class

i hope the vf fairy at am2 is listening hard.

william

 

Well, I mean, it wouldn't be THAT hard. She'd basically be grabbing your feet then tossing you upward. It's not like it'd be that hard to do, even for Kage.

 

let's not forget that Aoi is tiny and uses Aikido(Aiki Juijutsu, whatever) so she's using the oppenents momentum and stuff against them not tossing them in the air! i mean come on! Aoi couldn't toss wolf or anyone really without a cool wrist lock of some sort, so i feel the double leg evade works better than a toss, but maybe they could make it cooler looking. Like she evades their double legged attack and then chops them while still in mid air which slaps them or something?

 

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GaijinPunch said:

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-Drop the -3DP's for his new throw in Evo.

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YES, and add another throw direction for the love of god!!

 

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SoundWave said:

let's not forget that Aoi is tiny and uses Aikido(Aiki Juijutsu, whatever) so she's using the oppenents momentum and stuff against them not tossing them in the air! i mean come on! Aoi couldn't toss wolf or anyone really without a cool wrist lock of some sort, so i feel the double leg evade works better than a toss, but maybe they could make it cooler looking. Like she evades their double legged attack and then chops them while still in mid air which slaps them or something?

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This is the point I meant, actually. I mean, with the momentum of moves like that and the fact that they're usually in the air already, it wouldn't be that hard to just flip their feet upward, thus resulting in them flipping completely, or falling on their ass without being TR (not grabbing them, per se, just kinda shoving their feet upward to flip them).

 

I'd give Aoi Janets Virtua cop gun (Megamix).
Pop a cap or three in Akira's head yeah!
"RUN!"
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I would give Lion a reversal.cos exept guarding and evading he hasnt go much defense.a simple one like lei-fei's when he is standing on one leg and when you punch him he reverses it.
Cool throws that look like + throw.i think it is one of the coolest.

Ans i agree with Psyckogod .Lion should have a new stance.

 

i dont know, even though my new reversal idea for her double footed one was just off the top of my head, i kind of like the idea i had. It's different and would just look sweet, like the rest of her reversals. It would just be a complete rejection of their move /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif they'd be like uh oh as soon as you "evaded" then you'd just slam them to the ground with a well placed chop or something cool.hmm maybe even a double limbed thing where she uses both her hands/arms to bash you down to the ground...