Interesting PP2K

PP2K is not such a bad move anymore.

Usually /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is only effective against players that abare which would have the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif ending causing a MC down. On normal hit you mightve just given up Sarah's turn, and also if it's blocked it's pretty much a wrap...

But now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAzXJYelbjQ
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Above is a video from NORI438's youtube and it shows a new use for PP2K.

Sarah's back facing the wall on the 1player side has the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif finisher of /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif pushing the opponent toward the wall. Watching the video you see that it causes a stagger on normal hit and Sarah get a Dragon Cannon.

Nice.

Now what about Step Stance /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif? Looks like it's found a possible decent use.

This has me thinking about what other moves Sarah has that can push toward a wall and cause some staggers but aren't used because of disadvantage otherwise.

Looking at it of course you may be able to struggle(cause the joystick turned red), but this is also a good set up to to use her /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif wall throw from an OM into the foreground on the stagger.

As a matter of fact another interesting set up could be: /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif followed by /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif(for the wall stagger) watching Sarah's side and back/front position.

EDIT: also I'm sure that we all know that this should work on the 2player side with Sarah's back to the screen.

Any ideas?

 

Slide-
Good find! When your free for some training and sparring lets test this all out. I have some ideas as well, but dunno if they will work, so lets get to it.

Peace^-^
Not just a honda dx...
just sarah base model moving up to ex..

 

Yeah, next time I'm on we def gotta get at it. I think there's also something really cool about this video that wasn't shown but I'm not totally sure if it works yet, so we gotta try it then.

 

veeery nice... Although propably better idea to finish with DC instead of PPd+K.

 

I remember this happening a few times when I played plague. Though I could never understand what made it consistent. Nice find slide.

 

No prob man.

Oh and another note is that this situation also causes a wall splat, on counter hit.

 

Yeah that happened a lot cause the best way to beat /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif was to jab or low jab when you see the animation. If you MC the sweep instead and they are by the wall, owned lol.

 

After seeing the first video, I didn't know Sarah's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gifactually staggers and get a free dragon cannon laucher. I mainly use /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif in juggles, my wall combo with Sarah is still the same. I always use /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif wall combo since VF4. Does any have any new wall combo with Sarah that can do some big damage ? I'm gettin a little better with Sarah.

 

against a wall though

 

Did somebody try this combo after the stagger in training dojo?
I can't bounce a second time...

 

For Sarah after a bounce on the wall, when you connect a P they have to knick the wall on the side again for you to bounce. in fact, you could probably keep bouncing as many times as possible if each time you use 4K+G when you connect P after the bounce they scrape/knick the wall on the side.


during fights, 2 is the most I've been able to get though(because the spacing is gone, and they don't scrape the wall the sameway), and bouncing like this on the wall even works on heavy weights.

So basically, the bounce isn't supposed to touch the wall, but when you use P watch them scrape/knick the wall from an angle and you can bounce again.

I guess this would explain why OM was used, to set up the angle so you can keep bouncing like that.

 

Try this one against lightweights for fun, distance from wall is difficult to find though.. About 1/4 of stage length.

FL /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (MC) -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> (wall) -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif

ps. Yeah, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif only staggers against a wall, normally Sarah is at disadvantage on normal hit.