Jacky shuffle step

Discussion in 'Junky's Jungle' started by alantan, Nov 2, 2001.

  1. alantan

    alantan Well-Known Member

    I am getting confused by Jacky's new move. I never played Jacky but I am wondering how the shuffle step works. If I aniticipate it, what is the best response? What are Jacky's options and what are mine??
  2. JunesOne

    JunesOne Member

    jacky shuffles back(b+pkg) to the point where u can't really touch him, lifts a leg..however you can get him before or just as he goes into the shuffle step if say he executes a move like k+g~b(shufflestep);p+k,k~b, for i believe he doesn't go back as far as he would with b+pkg. It could be a bit dangerous trying to counter coz you could whiff like many do trying to chase jacky.
    jacky's options in shuffle step:
    df,df+p: a crouchdashing gutpunch which can be delayed...good move..u can just go into a deep crouch dash if u want and maybe go into FC,df+p(good move imo)
    k:mid side kick that staggers can be guard cancelled....if blocked it's not throw counterable. Also using the shuffle step in okizeme with this kick being guard cancelled evades a rising lowkick..then maybe an elbow to followup etc..whatever...vanessa can do this aswell with her bb+k+g,g , then u can get a lowthrow when the rising low kick whiffs.
    d+k,K: if the first hits the second will, best used when you've shuffled back and evaded someone's attack. lightweights also get hit by the first low kick say in p+k,k~b,d+k..haven't tried using it in juggles..
  3. alucard

    alucard Well-Known Member

    Are you certain his SS k hits mid? I think I've evaded it
    by crouching before, but I'm not sure.
  4. alantan

    alantan Well-Known Member

    ya that is the point. After blocking some moves, I should hvae initiative but the shuffle step takes away my chance to counter.

    How is the recovery time for the shuffle step? Can I run in and throw? The shuffle step reverses hp/mp right?

    how about lowbackfist? After a normal lowbackfist hit, Jacky do not have initiative right?

    The clips I have seen of Jacky do not use much of the shuffle step. mmm... maybe it is not that useful...
  5. jackybrothas

    jackybrothas Well-Known Member

    you can crouch dash forward right after the shuffle step
  6. alucard

    alucard Well-Known Member

    I'm 100% sure now, Jacky's SS k hits high, not mid. Btw,
    its actually possible to G cancel this move after
    hit-judgement has occured(iaigeri?).
  7. Yupa

    Yupa Well-Known Member

    re: shuffle step iaigeri?
    Do you have to hold forward like in VF2?

  8. alucard

    alucard Well-Known Member

    No, you don't have to hold forward, you just have to cancel
    it at the precise moment(k hits opponent). I'm guessing
    that since Jacky's SS K causes a strugglable stagger, it
    might be possible to follow up with a dash hammer or
    something if the SS K is cancelled as soon as it hits.
  9. JunesOne

    JunesOne Member

    ah it's mid..
  10. alucard

    alucard Well-Known Member

    OK, I tried it again today. Its mid, but its got a very poor hit-judgement vs crouching opponents.
  11. alucard

    alucard Well-Known Member

    Tried the SS K iaigeri again today, it works, but the timing is a little tricky. You can link this move with a knee or something because your opponent will not be able to struggle out of the SS K stagger in time, it does about 45-50% damage. Its quite cool really.
  12. Pinkgirl

    Pinkgirl Well-Known Member

    Jacky's b+PKG, then K, then G immediately after the animation shows the K being executed is really useful. You can get successful and damaging combos after the K is guard-cancelled after execution to prevent stun time.
  13. LittleWild

    LittleWild Well-Known Member

    The trouble is coming up with combos that are damaging enough to make use of b+pkg, k guard cancel.
  14. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    If the hit is guaranteed or has a high probability of hitting, why not? Seems better than his other options after the shuffle step.
  15. alucard

    alucard Well-Known Member

    I think the follow up attack is guaranteed if you do an
    iaigeri, its not if its a "normal" kick(recovery too long).
    Comboing it with knee, p, p, knee and it does about 45%
    And oh, Kage's p, p, helix is a true combo, the k after the
    helix is not guaranteed though.

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