Jean's impracticality of charged moves

Is it me or have I noticed that most of Jeans moves are impractical - sure he's on the easier side, input execution wise but my god is he hard to consider playing at high level.

I main akira but it's obvious that for pros the poster boy is the equivalent of a noob friendly character given his versatility once you get past the movr execution difficulty.

 

I think Jean's charged moves are Plus on block. And if you block some of Jean's charged moves from the side he can do a unblockable.

 

I'm no Jean expert, but it depends on how you're using them I guess. A few of his charged kicks like 66K or 66K+G are generally decent oki options against ukemi from what I've seen. Then there's the sideturned stuff that Jason mentioned, I think that's go-to stuff if you land CH 66P?
You're not going to be getting away with throwing out fully charged string enders whenever you feel like it, no, but these moves do have their applications. I definitely don't think he's a weak character at high level. Whenever I watch Japanese footage there's always a whole lot of Jean.

 

I think (i am not a Jean player) this moves are good for oki and to make you more unpredictable. Os course this types of set ups only works if your opponent defence

 

I thought you had to be godlike to compete with him. I thought he was fairly low tier but because the fundamentals are solid in VF, any character is viable - at least theoretically.

I heard "the shirt" say back in 2012 that Akira is the best character in the game after dreifei bodied somebody but would then lose to a top Japanese player (fuudo I think ).

 

In my opinion Virtua fighter is not a combat of characters or skills neither estrategy is a matter of mental power

 

Can any Lion player rate Ares-olimpico mental strength/toughness please?

 

You could literally say the same thing about Aoi's cancels (and still be mostly wrong about it).

It's about the play style of your opponent. If they mash, of course they're gonna stuff your charged attacks. If they mash, use quicker shit. If they don't stop mashing, don't stop using stuff that beats them. Does that mean those tool suck? No, they require setting up and an opponent capable of learning and adapting.

 

Sebo, how's that guessing game of yours working out in the VF arcades of JP?

 

I've been out of Japan for a year now, and the place I lived for 5 nearly all the arcades closed. Of the 12 I played at in my prefecture, only 3 were still open, and only 1 still had VF cabinets. And when the only arcade with an anti-smoking policy closed down, I played it a lot less in arcades (not dying of lung cancer is kinda a goal of mine).

But speaking from experience (and this shouldn't be unique because I bet most of you have spent more time playing this game over the past 5 years than I have): pretty well, depending on my opponent. Opponent habits and skills can really determine your potential movelist. Some opponents (i.e. the salary man with the creepy loli-themes for his characters) you can never use an attack like Jeffry's 6K+G because he'd CH 2P you out of it every time, but you get to TKoD him for free at +5 or greater. And then there was a Kage player would could 100% of the time ECDG Jeffry's K+G/46P/3K+G even though I would properly guess his evade and direction, and by the time I switched to K/4P it was too late of an adjustment.

Though, I fail to see how JP experience is relevant to the point made, as it's just obvious. I learned with a single play session back in Vanilla that unless you make an opponent fear Aoi's attacks will her cancels be of any use (and would have come to that conclusion sooner had I played with others earlier).

 

This is also where his charge cancel moves come into play also. If they mash out of charge attacks then, depending on the situation, you can a free CH charge cancel attack.

 

He's right. If you have an opponent that mashes all of the time. Then 2p into launcher will work all of the time. Every attack has a use. The hard part is what is that use and when/where to use it.

 

I can't imagine them being useful if they weren't. Holding an attack just to get neutral frames would be horribly useless. You take the risk of charging in order to either make your opponent drop their guard too late (getting hit by the charged attack) or to make them block for longer than they should, leaving you at an advantage once they block the charged hit.