Kage Combos

One more juggle for you (forgot this one...)

236K+G, BT PK~G, 66P+K, 46K+GK!K_KPK, 71_69 damage. Works up to MW, not stance depentant I think?

BTW probably obvious, but you can get CH 1P+K, DPoD out on the open for 81 damage, just not listed in the combos section again.

 

hello,not found in the combo list.
vs Taka:
(bt) 7 ,,46! 75dmg

vs Jeffry:
SH 3,2,2, 68dmg

 

Tried some combos with Kage in dojo. Found a combo not listed on combo page. After crumple from , you can do 1FK. It works on Lau and Jean in closed stance but I think it will work on other middleweights so I'll try it. 1FK can be tricky with Kage because can land as and can land as etc. so my preferred option for 1FK is though if you're more comfortable, you can use for 1FK. ! offers -1 on damage from medium bound, with this combo you get +1 more damage.

An example of a combo:

Shippujin -> 1FK

 

As seen in the video first hit of KPK causes a ground bounce. You need a 1FK on K (I did it with 335K, which BTW is a legit 1FK AFAIK as long as it's all within buffer) so it bounces Lion back up.
Most of those Akira 1FK combos are "abusing" this mechanic, for example. You can make a lot of stuff that doesn't work normally work when you make them ground bounce.

EDIT: also just a note that in those 1P+K combos he's hitting CH 1P+K from front and then causing sidewall stun with 4P+K,P (they are not sideturned before this, their side hits the wall).

EDIT2: I tried if I could get more damage on Goh from the ones on combolists and using the same mechanic I landed CH 2_3P, P, 66P+K, delay 6_P, 46K+G,K!K for 82 both stances. 46K+G causes a ground bounce here. Still has a possibility to cause a wallslump and it I think it carries a bit further. More scaling means worse wallcombo though (2_3P, P, 66P+K, 46K+G,K!K W, 46K+G,K!K, 7K+G does 97 while 2_3P, P, 66P+K, P, 46K+G,K!K W, 46K+G,K!K, 7K+G does 93).

 

Yeah, sorry I forgot to add about the neutral part . If there was no neutral, I'd just get a sidekick () so definitely have to let the stick return to neutral after the CD. As Akira is my main, I would say even if there was no move that could come out of or for Akira, I still prefer to let the stick return to neutral before I enter any button presses. An example is that on Brad/Goh/Lei and lightweights, is !

 

Myke, the 1P+K CH combo in the video is nice, but it's too impractical. The standard combo in that situation is 1P+K CH > 4P+KP (wall turn) > 1P+K > 4PK (wall slump) > OM away from wall > Dragon Kicks > Finisher. (165ish damage iirc)

 

I'm fairly sure that the window for groundbounces (at least in some situations) is 2 frames so that might be true too. I did test this some time back in Vanilla and I'm pretty sure that 335 and 115 are actual one frame kills but now I'm doupting myself.
EDIT: However in this Kage combo 335 is a solid way to achieving the result.

 

Referring back to the combo I listed,

Shippujin -> 1FK

Works on all middleweights (Lau, Jean, Jacky, Lei, Brad and Goh) in both closed and open stance. I'm still struggling to get it 100% consistent so offline/online, I might just revert to ! for a medium bound ender but will practice it more in the dojo until I can get it 100% consistency.

 

Noticed I had the KPK the wrong way round had it as PKP, Sorry . I'm still learning Kage.

 

How is that even possible? Some sort of magical reset?

 

Saw that combo vid a few days ago and been meaning to try it out, but still haven't been able to. Anyone test it out and know if it's specific just to Sarah or can it be done on other light / light-mid weight characters?

 

I just tested this, it really works. Kind of funky since I though the game had a strict "only one of the same bound move per combo" rule. It works on Sarah, Vanessa, Lion, Eileen and Aoi, I doubt it works on midweights since it didn't work on Shun and Blaze is just odd as usual. The trick seems to be to hit them with CH P+K at a distance so that they just barely hit the wall, when using Sarah's stage and the "CPU's back toward the wall" setting, placing the dummy's back leg just on or a little over the line that separrates the main tortoiseshell-like pattern from the white marble-like pattern near the fence seems to be the right distance. Wouldn't try it in a match due to the specific distance and such, but still very peculiar it even exists, I wonder does other characters have stuff like this?

 

Mister tweeted this (this is not the very first video about this strangeness) one week before the european Sega Cup.
I immediatly tried it in dojo (against Lau as in the first video) and found that the key to land the second 9K+G is doing a backdash and cancel it as late as possible but still being able to connect it.
Didn't know why though but a few days later a tweet from a sega rapresentative clarified the mistery: with the 9K+G input you can get two different moves depending on the distance.
That's the reason for the need of a backdash and it confirms that's not a bug in the FS juggle system.
Now I'm on vacation but when I tested it before eu sega cup I was able to land a double 9K+G bound on Wolf (didn't test the whole cast)

 

If not a bug it still feels atleast like an oversight or something since it kind of is cheating the system of the game, I doubt other characters can do stuff like that.

 

There are indeed two versions of 9K+G. one that jumps forward, and one that jumps roughly in place. I didn't know that the game counts them as different moves for the purposes of bounding though, nor was I really sure that such a rule that "you can't bound with same move twice" exists, since its not mentioned in the game. I figured it could just as easily be explained with damagescaling and lack of float height.. I always just mark down the combos that work, and not worry about stuff that should or shouldn't work..

I tried to recreate this combo but I couldn't do it in short time, pretty difficult. It would help if the move wasn't slow as molasses.