Edited to say Akira's jumping ascending and Jeffs +

Akira's jumping ascending is 全回転攻撃. Is this not full circular?

Maybe circular in the sense that it tracks.

That guard break isn't that great. What I think makes him stronger is that his nitaku launcher leaves him safe if you defend the right way. In fact, I think he's pretty safe after a lot of his launchers in proportion to the damage he deals.

Exactly. Which is y i dnt get y people think he's S. The only 2 moves he can use to get passed an opponents guard is SS2kk and K+GK Unblockable. Which are extremely slow. As i mentioned b4 his basic mix ups are bad. SSS is practically useless. Your command list becames limited anyway against good defensive opponents.
i mean who really uses his K strings? ik l dont

Lau has a guard break too.. Just sayin.

But we all know tiers don't make too much of a difference in VF. But it still can't be denied some characters can score a lot more damage off of correct read/launch or crumple.

In the Pre Beat-Tribe Cup 5v5 team tournament, team Pai went through team Jacky and team Brad. And team Lau won it, beating team Akira.

He's still a strong character; he's just below S. If you make one mistake against him then you take a lot of damage.

Instead of frowning at where a character's placed, it's easier to look at the characters placed above them and agree with their placement over the said character. Also, the more I play, I realize characters are should be played alot more diversely.

I WOULD disagree with Kage's placement and argue he should be lower, but I know it's because I play him ineffectively. I should throw more.

Aoi certainly has alot of options, but her risk/reward is pretty poopy, especially in certain matchups.

Brad's ability to deal with standing guard is well beyond Jacky's. Brad's DCK P+G/P+K is pretty potent. But Brad has less range than Jacky overall. You can't compare Brad's 3p+kp to beat knuckle.

Akira will forever have derp strength. His linearity is an issue, but not a problem. Akira's circular options are absurdly safe, even on evade.

I agree with the Taka view. 3S Chun has transformed into a fat man.

Mmmh, you can force the ducking P+G/P+K setup with a P+K, but it's only starting move that allow you that on guard, and the oncoming is obvious.
Plus depending of the distance, the opponent may back dash efficiently.
To finish, his catch throw only leads to a basic santaku, without great damage if successful or without guaranteed damage (comparing to Vaness's one for example). On the plus side, if it's escaped it leaves him at -3, like any (?) combo throw.

Ducking is a good tool to put/keep pressure, but not really something that force a player to stop playing like a turtle, opponent is still at the very end in a santaku position.

I mean just raw ducking into that mixup. you can't backdash away from the catch throw. I'm strictly talking about beating standing guard.

You can crouch backdash for sure.

Raw ducking for okizeme, ok, it works well. But in other case you are just asking to be punished, except if you play against somebody with low reflex.

And again, just to gain a santaku if you go for the catch throw. Not much different from trying a throw.

Also, just to add. If I remember right. The El Blaze team took out the Taka team.

But! At the same time, like most of the VF tournaments over there (as far as I know), it's cut throat. Lose once, get up out the chair mayne.

Also I'm pretty sure he meant to mention Taka's 4P+KP and not 1P+KP.

To quote Seidon: "Tiers can suck a dick."

Yep, edited.

Jacky combos are very damaging.. but to get max damage you must be able to Iageri. That leads to high rates of dropped combos which is the main drawback... his damaging combo starters require CH and or have execution of 16 and above save for Smash upper and Bil Jee which I doubt anybody will punish with..

Im sorry for the bump but for the people qouting my post.. . I had to fix it to characters with guard crushes are S. Jacky is strong A.

Furthermore K+GK is decent but its stance dependant sometimes.. against walls it great but the chances you risk just for a sweep is too great.

Especially online. %rate of dropped combos goes up even higher

Like Bill Jee..?