Sales just reflect how many people get excited over a new VF game. How many people have gone out of there way to purchase Virtua Fighter. I never suggested they impact the game's balance, but it's balancing doesn't help sales, I did suggest that.

But hey, you were twisting context to discredit me. I get it.

I'm not going to sit and argue over the quality of Virtua Fighter with a bunch of die-hard VF players... lol. The game speaks for itself. But it is wrong of me to come into your little bubble of the Fighter world, and try to shed some light of truth on it.

That was rude of me.

And IF YOU NEVER MAKE CONTACT, you should not SCORE DAMAGE... Don't play dumb, the physics engine is cheap, because these games are projected to make no more than 600k each... We are SO done here.

1P Myke: Excellent!

2P: Shaolin: D/C..

I’m listening!!

Jyunen hayaindaiyo! ✅

Dude come on, the strength of VF is obvious but presentation is lacking compared to the juggernaughts (Tekken and Street Fighter) which are both more marketable and better in subtle ways. Yoshinori respects VF by the way yet obviously understands its flaws and doesn't wish to clone it.

The "balance" in VF is difficult to understand for newbies and neither does it make the game flashy - so it doesn't win converts.

The balance in VF is easy to understand when you have played every fighter franchise going back to the SNES... From the titans like Tekken and Soul Calibur, to the absolute oddities like DOA, Guilty Gear, King of Fighters, even Ehrgeiz.

Fighting games are my JAM, always have been.

Virtua Fighter's strength is obvious to me. It's an Arcade Brawler. It doesn't have the depth and precision of a game like Tekken, 10-12 hit combos, 4-button comboing, MASSIVE command lists, tons of characters, good story. NONE of that really matters in the Arcades... People want to drop a coin and have fun. VF is HAND MADE for this style of play.

Let me try to break it down real simple.

1. Low Budget (based directly on past sales, nothing else)
2. Sub-par engine and mechanics
3. Imbalanced characters (again, doesn't really matter in Arcades, it's a Brawler, not a precision fighter)
4. Cheesy character dialogue and lack of story (All of the above is a direct result of the BUDGET)
5. Simplistic button layout, and as a direct result, simple comboing commands (not to mention limited comboing)

Need I really go on into the nit-picky stuff?

You probably made the honest mistake of assuming I didn't take the time on every character, or didn't play VF3, or 4.... Honest mistake. When you've been nose-deep in fighters since 1992, it's not that hard to get a feel for any fighter you pick up. VF5:FS is an awkward, clumsy, cheap POS. The rest of the consumer base seems to agree.

Clever retort. you've really made some fine points here in Vf's defense. You know, maybe the fighter community as a whole IS wrong, and the few hundred-thousand people buying VF titles have been right all along...

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Yeah... that's gotta be it.

The troll is strong in this one

Virtua Fighter is just an easy target... It's like trying to say Minecraft is a deep, intellectual RPG that is superior to others in the genre like Skyrim, or Final Fantasy.

You can believe whatever you want, it's subjective at the end of the day. Most people will just ask that you try to be humble... Don't have the audacity to insult people's intelligence with some "Virtua Fighter is insanely deep and complex," bullshit.



Most of you are on Virtua Fighter because it's the one game you could master. The one game where you can execute combos in full. The only game where not blocking is a viable option. VF's reputation is a safe haven for Tekken and Soul Cal. rejects.

So are you asking us to be humble and to not insult your intelligence?

Then you proceed to be arrogant and insult our intelligence?

Please explain, I want to make sure I get what you're saying since I don't want to insult you. And please simplify since I may not have the mental capacity to keep up.

I’d make my own list.

To ShaolinMonk:

Look kid, no one here is forcing you to play the scrubiest version of VF until VF6 is out. It's obvious things aren't going your way & making excuses is your thing. But in case I'm wrong which happens a lot here. I hope you're not a virgin or just needs to get laid a lot more.

Haven't taken a look at this forum in a long time but seriously. Someone must be really salty to sign up on THE western site for VF to rant about the game and the player base.

Also, Tekken and a good story. Next thing would be that Tekken has good character designs? The first fighter I quit because every character design is bad, especially in 7 now that Bruce and other fan favs were replaced by even more anime characters and season passes for "free" legacy characters.

But I just wanted to say that newcomers to VF who are reading this should not think too much about tiers. Aoi can step on you just as hard as the Akira tiers and she, Lion and Akira will always be my favourites.

When you have top players like Valle and Wong ( well he did play it for a bit) saying how they find the game difficult. Guys that were fairly well versed in a fighting games in general saying that, I think it speaks for itself. I think any further discussion on this matter is just giving unwanted attention. This thread is old and the list at this point in FS lifespan and changed considerably considering that guys like Homestay give a different tier list. I recommend this thread to be closed.

Where is Homestay's tier list?