Lau Question?

Having trouble with Lau's MAIN float combo:
b, b, f+P, d+P/I try to do the d+P right after the f+P, but it seems to be too late...Any suggestions? Is there any other float combos that can be followed by other combos[Lau only of course]?

All comments appriciated!

--Master Wong--

 

What are you trying to do?

I haven't the foggiest idea of what you're trying to do.

b,b,f+P? - would this not yield an elbow? And following this with d+P would only result in a low punch.

My assumption is that you're trying to pull off bb+P,d+P. Lau's TA-Palm, TT-downknife? One major hurdle for most trying this sequence is failure to return the joystick to neutral in between the bb+P and the d+P. Slow the motions down to give yourself a good idea of the 'clean' input and then speed it up gradually.

If you want Lau float combos - his best starter, imo, is the UpKnife (UpKn) DF+P. This can also be blended of course into superknife (SpKn) as DF+P,df+P+K. The UpKn will float your opponents (on a counter) making it easy to land df+PPPK (light) or df+PPPd+K. It's important to remember that the first punch immediately following the UpKn recovers faster than the UpKn on its own. So, UpKn-P is really the way to go and then follow up the float with [df]PPPK or [df]PPPd+K. I included the [df] as an option to either start your PPPK with a normal punch or the downknife (df+P). If you've got your modification movements down well (df,DF) a great looking combo lifted from the VF2 days is: UpKn-P, m-UpKn-PPPd+K. This can be done on light-mid characters on flat ground.

cheers,

<font color=white> Llanfair the prized <font color=green>cabbage</font color=green></font color=white>

 

to quote clopin -

"this is a simple case of read-the-movelist-carefully"

 

Re: What are you trying to do?

Yes, that is what I meant: b b+P, d+P then apply any d/fPPP+K, PPP+d+K, etc., etc.! Sorry for the screw up. I think You and Mike have cleared it up for me. First I need to return the stick to a neutral position and then continue the d+P as Lau is doing the b b+P. Thanks for the input!

--Master Wong--

 

a bit more Lau coolness...

I was messing around with Lau on the Dreamcast today - this thread kinda gave me the craving to play after quite a long hiatus.(since T2K)

Some cool sequences I thought might be nice for you to try out:

1) Against Taka: UpKn-P (float), four sweeps. pretty neat. in commands - DF+PP, d+KK,d+K,d+K+G.
2) Mid characters like Akira and Jacky (this one is Gamest) bb+P,d+P, bb+Pd+PPPd+K.
3) Old one from VF3ob that still is cool: UpKn-SpKn, m-Upkn-Pb+Pf+P, stomp.
4) Light characters with major counter: bb+P,d+P, m-UpKn-SpKn, pounce (not sure if the pounce is guaranteed)
5) another oldie - UpKn-Spkn, m-UpKn-Spkn, PPPd+K - needs downhill slope and a light character.

Happy Lau-ing.

cheers,

<font color=white> Llanfair the prized <font color=green>cabbage</font color=green></font color=white>

 

Re: a bit more Lau coolness...

I printed out your thread and I'll try them tonight...Thanks! One more question though. Is [PPP]+(ub+K) a good combo? It feel like half of the time I use the ub+K does not connect. I know that changing your fight patterns is one of the keys to a good player, but I feel that this particular kick leaves my Lau vulnerable to an extent. Any thoughts?

--Master Wong--

 

Re: a bit more Lau coolness...

There's a similar combo against Taka:

uramawari -> b,b+P, d+P -> four sweeps

Nice looking.

<b>ice-9 | Sennin</b>

 

Uramawari

ice ice baby, you left out one important thing.
how to achieve the uramawari..

I've gotten it fairly consistently with Lau's uf+K
and then dodging but honestly I know that at a certain
level I'm just mashing and hoping. I would not mind
knowing for real.

Has anyone done this Shun Uramawari? P+G throw, bb+P, uf+E.
This is taken directly from the DC Mook (without translating
any of the Kanji) so I'm unsure of the requirements but I assume
you need your opponent to roll forwards.

Wolf Ura (from Mook again):d+P+K+G low throw, E into shoulder ram
(b, f+P. There are a few requirements one of which seems to be
a quick dash ("quick foot") on your part before the E.

Sorry, this post is last minute so I can't do any better on the
translation (that would take too long anyway and make my brain
hurt). Still, you people with an arcade unit or a DC can try
it out at your leisure.

GE

 

Re: Uramawari

the low throw ura setup you described also works for his alternate side throw (f,b or b,f+P+G).

-Gortek the Pervert, who thinks playing on a bugged out tb is probably a good simulation of lsd. and acid + bugged out tb = ?

 

Re: Uramawari

GE, much of uramawari comes from "feeling". I honestly don't have very many sequences memorized for ura...most of it is running in, QD, QD and Eing to the head. It's sometimes a bit tougher against Taka since he's so big...

<b>ice-9 | Sennin</b>

 

Re: Uramawari

::While knowing what to do is important, I think knowing when to do it is crucial. When your opponent starts delaying the way they rise and/or attack, the timing of your Ura becomes everything. I guess that's where the "feeling" comes in.::

Very funny story about Ura. Lau is apparantly Ura king. I made my opponent
rise wrong two times without doing anything special. Once, all I was doing
was dashing forward. Furthermore...was playing the CPU (ugh)and Lau high
pounced me and then I rose with my back turned. Figure that out. CPU Lau
must have had "feelings" all over the place.

Ice: I totally believe that you have a feeling for when to practice Ura
but you must (you must, Ice, you must) admit that there *are* certain
conditions that must usually be satisfied before Uramawari can be
accomplished. Kipping up (E, E, E) can usually destroy any Ura attempt.

Jeff Ura: P+G throw, roll back towards the opponent, E towards the head.
Jeff Ura: f+P+G throw, low kick, E
Shun Ura: b+P+G throw, roll back towards the opponent, uf+E
Wolf Ura: df+P+G throw, E, bf+P
Wolf Ura: df+P+K, run over opponent, E
Taka Ura: P+G throw, D f+P

These are all the *mechanics* (inputs) for the Ura's I know and have
done. All of the conditions are not totally known to me, so sometimes
I get it and sometimes I don't. I usually end up in the better
situation though since the opponent is usually trying hard not to rise
all buggered up.

GE