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Discussion in 'Vanessa' started by Aoi_Pai, Mar 17, 2013.

  1. MakiLeSushi

    MakiLeSushi Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    when it CH stagger, and big damage if the opponent doesn t stagger recovery
     
  2. Aoi_Pai

    Aoi_Pai Well-Known Member

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    should i use 6P+K+G after i get it on CH? 6P+K+G 6_p 2P+K 3KK?
     
  3. MarlyJay

    MarlyJay Moderator - 9K'ing for justice. Staff Member Gold Supporter

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    No 6P+K+G is way too slow. If your opponent knows how to wiggle the stick use [K] to launch them. if they're decent a breaker use crush jaw again to launch them. If they're really fast i'm not sure if anything is guaranteed. You may just have to apply nitaku.
     
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  4. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    Also, i'm not sure this combo works on heavyweights.
     
  5. MakiLeSushi

    MakiLeSushi Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    It s the combo i use, works on everybody but not jacky, Akira (not sure) and heavyweigths... For them use P-> 6PPK Otherwise you ve got the "chibitox's" combo, after the stagger K->6_P->6PKK you can add 4P+K after 6_P for lightweigths... and for middleweights it works only in close stance ( Chibitox could confirm that) or the "truewiseman's" combo wsP->wsP->P->6PKK work for all but for heavyweights use PPK instead of 6PKK (truewiseman could confirm that)
    Edit: I agree with Marly it s a way too slow to connect but online, u ve got bigger chances to connect because of the lag, and if the crush jaw surprise ur opponent too...
    Against ur opponent see how he reacts during a stagger if he s slow use 6P+K+G otherwise use K or wsP
     
  6. Chibitox

    Chibitox Well-Known Member Bronze Supporter

    On lightweight easy no stance: K->6_P->4P+K>6P3K

    If you can check stance: K->6_P->4P+K>6PKK (open stance iirc)

    middle weights: K->6_P->6PKK
     
  7. MakiLeSushi

    MakiLeSushi Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    Heavyweights?
     
  8. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    I'm guessing just 6PKK (includes Taka)?
     
  9. Chibitox

    Chibitox Well-Known Member Bronze Supporter

    For heavy middleweights I think the middleweight combo works but timing is a bit harder on 6_P, definitely doable though.

    For heavyweights from what I remember Wolf get hit by the middleweight combo but jeffry doesn't, but if you use WSP instead of K it will work. (Stagger --> WS P ->6_P->6PKK)

    Take thiese with a grain of salt though, it's been a while I've been testing this, it may contain mistakes. I don't remember if I posted the results here or if it was in the shoutbox.
     
  10. TaNooki_kun

    TaNooki_kun Well-Known Member

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    Thankfully a lot of the time the opponent will be just as surprised as you are that they got staggered :p . I usually use the 3P+K (Boomerang Hook) bread and butter combo when I get a stagger off of crush jaw since it's easy to remember. Most of the time you'll need to input it as 33P+K to get a small dash for it to connect, but it will hit from further away than you might think sometimes. Note that this also works with 3K when you hit a back-dashing opponent and get a stagger. If I have a hunch that they'll back-dash at the start of the round I'll do: 33K>>Check the stagger>>33P+K.
     
  11. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    I remember testing for OS f+pkg stagger followups a while ago and realizing that the heavier a character is, the less they stumble back when staggered. In fact i even got boomerang hook to work on wolf, jeffry and taka *without* having to dash forward. Maybe something similar happens with crush jaw stagger and heavier characters?
     

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