Lion Basic/how to play Lion

I'm new here and my main is Lion. When I look over at the Lion guide area I notice that there was no "Basic" Lion trend to teach people the basics of Lion. I've looked at his stuff on wiki but that dosen't help me learn how to use him properly or how to use him in a certin match. So this is why I made this trend. sorroy if I did any thing wrong and I take full punishment for my misshaps if I did any thing wrong. Any way I just wanted to know what are the basics of Lion and how should i go about learning him.

 

After quickly browsing through Lion's subforum i advise you to look at the following threads:

VFdc wiki entry - VF5 Lion strategy and
VFdc wiki entry - Lion combos to get you started
Chanchai's move analysis
Chanchai's tips for keeping up the pressure
Chanchai's tips on less frequently used moves
Combo thread
Two noobs trying to figure out Lion's top ten moves

Hope these will be enough to get you started

 

-> -> -30

I don't understand the mix up with , both attacks are low...

 

Doesn't he have a mid from that?

No idea.

A good idea for learning Lion would be to not be overly fond of his low attacks as they will end up getting you killed.

 

ask boris of whales im sure he will show u some lion tricks. he was nice enough to show me alot of stuff.

for me, i tried to get into VF about 3 different times.. when i was young. I was overloaded with info and i didnt wanna read through so many wikis.. If somebody would have told me the basic fundamentals.. i would have got into this game alot earlier.
Neways, Social ruin and Cozby really helped me get to stage 1.

go over.
Fuzzy G,-1 to -5
Crouch FUZZY G, -6
ETEG -7 and up

(when u get better, ull mix it up)

what is advantage disadvantage?

once u know that, u can pretty much figure evrything else out. IMO this is the only info i needed to get "started" but not to improve.

 

He has , . The is high,circular and wall splats.


Faust, send me a FR on XBL and we can have some games.

 

It's a high!?

I always stand to block it like a right fanny.

 

Yep it doesn't combo, you can cover both options with but the wall splat is nice.

 

I didn't know about the wall splat, what you do next when you get one? for a bounce?

 

You can do (guard cancel) but it doesn't do as much dmg as >heavy pounce or >heavy pounce. I think the first option does 61, the second two do 67.

 

How do you guys implement this combo above? Any tips to buffer without ??

 

Hmm, I haven't tried this variation. Though the way I buffer that is f,f,G, f+P.

I think I normally go with D, f+P+G --> d+P --> b,f+P+K --> f+P,P.

Been so long I can't even remember and I just do these combos on muscle memory...

Hmm... actually I did the earlier popular combo finisher of f,f+P+K, P.

I know Ice-9 one time claimed (I think during VF4) that f+G could get you to stand up quickly, but it never worked for me. However, my dexterity is on the low end compared to a lot of players here.

 

Thanks for the replies Chanchai and Myke.

I did try manner before but it didn't work, and it seemed a little bit too slow.

This is one thing I dislike VF, because some characters(such as Lion, Wolf, Pai) have conflicts doing or and uppercut on crouching stance. Even though users can still buffer but it's too hard to check after 2p hits.

 

You are right, Myke ^_^ f,f,G didn't work. Must have mentally taken out my lazy (nerfed) version of the combo by using b,f+P+K after the low punch. At least that's what I think I did. Really need to play VF again soon ^_^

Random note: VF has done well without the E button in the VF4 and VF5 games... But I still miss it sometimes

 

Dennis why are you doing neway? I'm pretty sure 2p>b,f,p+k>f,f,p+kp does more damage and 2p,ppdp+k carries them further for a ringout. I can't think of a good reason why you'd use f,p,p unless you like the way it looks.

 

yeh, I thought it's the way for a ringout but now I know the further one thanks for the information and I'll try myself.

 

It does in the Megadrive/Iphone version LOL...

 

a) There's always . It's 14f too so it qualifies as fastest mid attack from crouch. Sure it doesn't combo on CH but it does give a nice +7 frames. Plus it's knee class and mixing up attack classes doesn't hurt.

b) That said, Myke's method is necessary to correctly punish blocked lows that leave opponents at -14 to -18. The will stagger making the guaranteed for a healthy 36 guaranteed damage.

c) That said, it's still possible to survive with Lion without doing . OK, a simple is the equivalent of letting Lion's opponent to get away with murder but at -15 he gets for a knockdown and at -17 for a stagger, it's not unbearable.

d) I'm taking the time to write this because the thread is called Lion Basic/how to play Lion. This way if any new players read this discussion they won't end up overly intimidated by having to learn and alternative (harder) input for an easy move.