how do you do it. i just saw a video of it being done. it is too cool. also if i could get some info of when and not to try to get it off would be very appreciated. actually any lion info would be appreciated. i have read ice-9 faq. it was very informitive and improve my game in a day. the d+P > f+P or f+P+G mind game is sweet. good work ice. anywho waiting with baited breath.