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Lion Strategy

Discussion in 'Lion' started by Jason Elbow, May 24, 2017.

  1. Ares-olimpico

    Ares-olimpico Well-Known Member Content Manager Lion

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    Hi guys i check 1P+k no needs CH
    @Toto if you think 19f is fast enough 46k is the best option. Faster 9k starts a wall combo more damaging than 44k.
    @Jason Elbow you are reason is situacional but seing with the other leg forward than 44K+G or 2KK+G now we have tools in both cases
    2P+K4K works in simiar (diagonal not parallel) situation than 1P+K is safer and faster only note its cover the other escape direction
     
  2. Toto

    Toto Member Gold Supporter

    Ares I didn't realise 46K worked. Excellent. Can you get the full wall combo (46K -> 9P etc. etc.) after it?
    9K is nice and safe though.
     
  3. Ares-olimpico

    Ares-olimpico Well-Known Member Content Manager Lion

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    @Toto yes you can do the 9p full combo
    i note ( only check Eileen) i fault doing my favorite 9p 46p+k 46K+G KK 8P+K easy and damaging if i choose not do 8P+K (oki is the worst ) an start FC 4P+K OR 3/7P+K+G and P+K OR 41236P OR 46K OR 6P+K OR 3K VERSUS BLAZE if your opponent roll. Not all hits works with all character in a far future i will list it. BUT i think 46k is too slow if you want in dojo put you back to the wall, récord the CPU doing this setups, try to struggle and judge with your own speed.
    Some setups with 3K? I usually try 3P+K and 46P+G Exactly the direction lion's opponent usually defend more near the wall
    PK works toó after 3P+K
    Really i need to check if 336P+K Works after this wall hit
     
  4. Ares-olimpico

    Ares-olimpico Well-Known Member Content Manager Lion

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    I see in youtube a Lion doing after evade [P][K] and [1][K][+][G][P] to make his Side Turned opponent hit the wall and try [9][K]
     
  5. Ares-olimpico

    Ares-olimpico Well-Known Member Content Manager Lion

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    And @Stl_Tim you said [2_][6][P][+][G] can be used for ring out in half fence can explain how?
     
  6. Stl_Tim

    Stl_Tim Well-Known Member

    I don't remember 336p+g, but 336p+k close to wall techroll leads to a wall stagger r.o.

    I'll look into the 336p+g throw though when I'm on next time.
     
  7. Toto

    Toto Member Gold Supporter

    Hey Ares, I think the optimum combo is:
    Opponent ST - [P][K][P] (you have to hit confirm here. What I mean is, you visually check which hit of this string pushes your opponent into the wall). You will receive a stagger. -> [4][4][P][+][K][5][4][6][K][5][9][P][5][4][6][P][+][K][5][4][6][K][+][G][5][8][P][+][K][5][6][6][K][K].
     
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  8. Ares-olimpico

    Ares-olimpico Well-Known Member Content Manager Lion

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    First thanks for this setup @Toto
    i thing the other i was mention need some more distance to the wall.
    in 20170827 東京ベイエリアカップ vol.8 you can see akio using the setup you mentioned above and in 2:21:15 another Lion using [P][K] [1][K][+][G][P]
     
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  9. Jason Elbow

    Jason Elbow Well-Known Member

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    Gotta link to the vid?
     
  10. Ares-olimpico

    Ares-olimpico Well-Known Member Content Manager Lion

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  11. Ares-olimpico

    Ares-olimpico Well-Known Member Content Manager Lion

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    Hi @Toto
    about the setups with [1][P][+][K] i forget or not realize that [4][4][P][+][K] exec in 19f (without perfect buffering) the same than [4][6][K] is 1f safer is the opponent can struggle and guard and you can do [4][6][K] after it if it connects
    i'd checked [3][3][6][P][+][K] works well after a [3][K] wall hit
     

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