I just had my first taste of VF4 by accident. haven't been to the arcade for months. First thoughts, Lion still looks pretty good. The new move b,f+p+k,p,p is pretty good. (this move is written wrongly in the FAQ downloaded from gamefaqs) I need some advice on vs tactics, especially important changes from VF3. Is the tech roll (u+G+P+K) useful? never tried it yet. not used to doing that. What is the use for the d,d/b,b+P? soo slow to come out. Does it has any special properties?? I hate the fact that they removes the E button. sigh... Still the game looks pretty good. So who is the strongest character in VF4??? Thanks in advance. PS: Is Feixaq chris?? If it is you, long time no see. You still playing VF??