Move properties depending on DP

Hi

It might be old news for veteran Shun players, but yesterday i realized that some moves´ properties change depending on how blitzed our favourite Drunken Master already is.

This thread is intended to collect the relevant data concerning these moves.

The first two i found (i still have to work out the exact DP numbers, i think i will find the time for this either this evening or tomorrow).

The frame data changes depending on DP. In the twenties the last hit is 0 on hit and block. In the thirties it is +1 on hit and block.

or ++: turns into a launcher on counterhit at 10+ DP (i think) So far i got combos with , off it.

 

I think some of this might be of use here.

Summary,
K:, and all attacks similar will not knock down Taka on normal hit until at 23 drinks.
and (including stance shifts) will not knock down on normal hit until at 14 drinks.

etc. I hope the quotation is clear enough.

 

The other big one is that launches (pretty damn high, at that) on counter at ... I think it's 23 drinks.

 

thanks. I will try that out in training mode. Gotta compile all this useful information, it could be pretty useful.

 

Another move is , at 7 drinks it knocks down on CH consistently. It'll knock down at lesser drinks, but it may require a big CH (beating a move that does over ~30 damage), but I'm not sure. Further testing required on that front. And yeah rattlejaw, 23 drinks is the number for . The floater knocks down high but FAR, so I would continue the combo with to close the distance and get good damage before finishing with a weight-appropriate finisher (except on Taka. Thanks for the info Sebo, Taka is a pain for Shun to deal with).

 

To be honest, though, I'm not sure I really see the new Shun getting that drunk in the first place. is a really good argument for getting sober.

That's not to say this stuff isn't good to know, of course. The more knowledge, the better, and the anti-Taka stuff is particularly handy, because fuck Taka, that's why.

 

Ok, apparently i cannot edit my original post, so...


0 - 8 DP: hit-2, block-6
9-26DP: hit-1, block-1
27-35DP: hit0, block0
36-40DP: hit+1, block+1
tested on Lau

or :
minor counterhit: (blue) 0-40 DP: +5 frames, no launch

major counterhit: (yellow)
0-13DP: +8 frames, no launch
14-40DP: launch, possible to combo with , (Tested on Lau and Eileen, counterhitting their )
Taka: sometimes +9 frames on major ch (maybe didn´t connect at first active frame during testing?), very limited combo potential. The rest is the same.