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[Myke] season final for Heroes SUCKED!!!!

Discussion in 'General' started by GodEater, May 22, 2007.

  1. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    it sure did, Myke. It sure did.

    GE
     
  2. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

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    I don't watch that show and, based on this news, I am sad for all that did. I hate it when quality TV takes a turn for the worse.
     
  3. Brisal73

    Brisal73 Well-Known Member

    Heroes is a great show and the finale was good. Even though they should have put the last two episodes together for one 2 hour finale

    btw Myke sucks not Heroes...thank you /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
     
  4. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    for me it was very much a cop out - almost as though they forgot they only had one last episode to tie it all up. I don't think the last two episodes strung together would made the ending any better.

    It was a poor conclusion for a mostly solid season. Too bad. The fact that the spin-off series is adopting the "YOU decide" approach on how the second season is populated is more troubling for me though.

    GE
     
  5. Namflow

    Namflow Well-Known Member

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    Why didn't Peter just fly himself away to explode, is there any reason he couldn't use his brother's ability? It seemed like they copied the "fly the exploding bomb up to the sky" idea from the Alabasta story-arc of One Piece.



    *** END SPOILER ***
     
  6. Poppa

    Poppa Well-Known Member

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    I think it's because Peter can't control two powers at a time (yet) and considering that he can't even control the nuke power (which is the whole conflict behind season 1, him blowing up because he can't control his powers) he probably just...couldn't fly even if he wanted to.

    The finale needed to be split up into two episodes; they just tried too much with too little time. It was also just...badly written and could've benefitted from reworking a few things. Some "logic" issues too (how could Nathan and Hiro get so close to Peter when he's going all nuclear? How stupid is Sylar for letting Hiro run up to him/how stupid is Hiro for running up to Sylar instaed of teleporting after he got his ass handed to him twice already? Etc...). Also, some continuity problems (why not just knock Peter out and bring him somewhere safe to blow? Knocking him out seems to have worked in the past). They also never explained why future Hiro couldn't just go back in time to kill Sylar. Etc etc.

    The show has an interesting premise, plot and characters, but suffers from bad writing (continuity issues for example) and some poor performances (but this is TV...so I'll cut it some slack).

    If the writers get their act together, the show can become something really special.

    And Peter punching Sylar? -__- At least give us some TK punches while he's being TK choked.






    ***END SPOILERS***
     
  7. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    I enjoyed the finale...it was a bit different...and the fact that you do not see the explosion upfront could set up something later down the road.
     
  8. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    The whole flying Peter up into the sky thing, as obvious as it was, I can live with. I didn't like it, but I can deal.

    What I really struggle with is how they killed off three, seemingly important, characters in the space of two episodes.

    1. Linderman: a key character, with an amazing power, gone! Brain squeezed by DL, WTG! The entire Niki/Jessica, DL and Micah plot line bored me to tears from start to finish. I was desperately hoping for some kind of salvation towards the end, but it wasn't to be.

    2. Thompson (Eric Roberts): Thanks for coming, mate! OK, maybe he was a pawn in the whole thing, but his departure just seemed so sudden and careless. At least give us something out of his character before he departs. A total waste.

    3. Sylar!!! In the second last ep, Hiro spends one training session with his Father, and suddenly he's an expert swordsman. As pathetic as that was, I managed to suspend my disbelief in anticipation of some final, climatic fight scene with Sylar. But in the final ep, what do we get? Hiro running in a straight line at Sylar with sword thrust forward, yelling like a girl. WOW! Why didn't Sylar stop Hiro? He had no trouble flinging people around at a whim moments earlier. Hell, he even stopped bullets being fired at him. But stopping Hiro? Maybe we should call Hiro, Juggernaut. Nobody can stop that shit.

    Yeah, overall, really disappointing and bordering on insulting. I almost stopped watching after the Hiro/Sylar scene, and right now I really have no interest in the next season. oohhh, big shadow... scary! Call that a cliff hanger? I call that a big middle finger! FUCK OFF!

    Am I taking this too seriously? Maybe. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
     
  9. Poppa

    Poppa Well-Known Member

    Wasn't the big shadow an eclipse?

    Anyways, ya, like I said, shitty writing. Myke just gave a lot of examples.

    I could think of a bunch of different ways to actually make the whole Hiro running into Sylar thing work. One such way could be that Sylar gets a vision of the future (suddenly and as if he was forced to see this vision). Who does he (and he alone; i.e. not us) see? The big bad man Molly was talking about. That distraction gives Hiro the time needed to make the kill (which he should STILL teleport).

    Anyways, ya, shitty writing. It's okay for the viewer to suspend their disbelief once in a while, but when it gets to a point where they take a step back, go "WTF?" and leave to go and jack off to Claire, then you know you need better writers.
     
  10. DubC

    DubC Well-Known Member

    Hiro was already a good swordsman. Remember in the future episode? He says he was trained in a certain type similar to kendo. His father just helped him refine it and get rid of this fear. Also, since he is the son of the legendary Kensei, you could say it runs in his blood (george takei is kensei).
     
  11. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    But that future never eventuated, right? The "bomb" didn't go off. Just because future-Hiro was a badass, doesn't automatically make present-Hiro one too. Or does it?

    The time-travel thing gets sour for me real quick the more I think about it.
     
  12. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    In stabbing skylor how did Hiro show he was an expert swordsman? The biggest point the show made was that now he was brave enough to even risk the encounter. There was no flashy sword play. He ran up and just stabbed dude!
     
  13. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    I think the whole point of Hiro's kendo practice was to show how much faster than bullets a sword can be. After all, Sylar had no issues with Parkman's bullets when they were fired at a close distance - but a Japanese fellow porting in ten feet away and attacking in a straight line? tough to manage.

    Really, the show has always been plagued by bad writing (I read once somewhere that individual writers worked on individual characters so that they could get shows written faster) and it all came to a head at the conclusion. They broke time every episode they used it as a device and they broke their whole premise (save the cheerleader, save the world) the moment they popped Hiro and Ando 5 years in the future and she was A) alive and B) New York was still a bombed out city.

    You can explain the whole thing away very easily (which is why time travel in stories suck) but that shouldn't be the job of the audience.

    There were a lot of problems in this series and it was too bad they rushed into an ending that only added to the pile instead of subtracting them.

    If they had just trimmed away the fat that was the whole Nikki/DL/Micah storyline they could have devoted a lot more energy to the actual plot. Those writers needed two things desperately: 1) continuity advisers 2)editors.

    GE
     
  14. Jide

    Jide The Super Shinobi Silver Supporter

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    Apparently weren't some of the writers from lost? I remember hearing about they took the negative feedback with lost(More questions with every episode)all the question marks from lost and decided to come up with something more predictable and continuing story with Heroes..
     
  15. Cuz

    Cuz Well-Known Member

    The show, in my opinion, was going down hill since the first break the last episode was just horrid. There were more shows foreshadowing the fight between Sylar and Peter than there were punches in the actual fight.
     
  16. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Umm im pretty sure Sylar isnt dead unless i dreamed up that hole scene of the line of blood leading towards the sewer
     
  17. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    no, that particular pile of excrement was written in.

    GE
     
  18. Cuz

    Cuz Well-Known Member

    I bet it has something to do with the dung beetle that helped him escape from the haitian and glasses. Or whatever happened that he escaped.
     

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