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Need some help to increase my defense

Discussion in 'Lion' started by raspyrateur, Nov 8, 2009.

  1. raspyrateur

    raspyrateur Member

    Hello everybody

    I try to improve my skill with Lion, my main character, but I have some difficulties to play a correct defense.

    As Lion has the slowest P+K after a defensive move, I don’t know how take back advantage during a fight when I’m corned/trapped.

    So, what is “standard” defense with him ? DM and throw ? DM turned in OM ?
     
  2. AnimalStaccato

    AnimalStaccato Well-Known Member

    Re: Need some help to have increase my defense

    Lion does have the slowest DMP+K however in closed stance you can get a 77dmg combo on counter hit. It's best used from the range of a backdash or with a succesful DM before it, or if you can predict the last move of an opponants strings.

    Lions not a great defensive character, in fact he's bloody unsafe! So to improve your defence with him you should be looking to improve your fundamentals. These include fuzzy guard, ETEG (evade throw escape guard), spacing etc.

    If you look at Lions frame data you can see which moves leave him at -5 or less (these moves you should fuzzy guard). -6 exactly, these moves you should crouch fuzzy and -7 or more. These moves you should ETEG.
     
  3. Mackfactor

    Mackfactor Well-Known Member

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    Re: Need some help to have increase my defense

    I was wondering about lion's dmk. PPL complain about dm PK online thats hard to punish and so ppl dont dm pk too much online. BEcause lion's DM PK has a slow activation and they cant punish it neways, i believe its -2 or -3 on block so i wonder if ppl get pissed for abusing his dm pk?
     
  4. MarlyJay

    MarlyJay Moderator - 9K'ing for justice. Staff Member Gold Supporter

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    Re: Need some help to have increase my defense

    Boris, i'm suprised you didn't mention [2] [1] [4] [P] as you use it so well [​IMG]
     
  5. AnimalStaccato

    AnimalStaccato Well-Known Member

    Re: Need some help to have increase my defense

    Ah that's more counter attack, personally I think defence is for chumps [​IMG] but I was answering his question specifically!

    Mack the fact that it has a slow start up is the reason you can't really abuse it, people see it coming a mile off. Unless they are button mashers.
     
  6. raspyrateur

    raspyrateur Member

    Re: Need some help to have increase my defense

    Thank for your answerd, by reading it, I realize that my problem come probably by a lack of practice against human player [​IMG]
     
  7. DrWoo

    DrWoo Well-Known Member

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    Re: Need some help to have increase my defense

    At slight disadvantage, [4][P][P] is also a great tool for Lion IMHO
     
  8. AnimalStaccato

    AnimalStaccato Well-Known Member

    Re: Need some help to have increase my defense

    Yep it ducks under highs from the very first frame although that is also technically counter attacking.
     

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