I'm new here, so please put up with a little idiocy from time to time. Still, I think i know *most* of the rules. I'm a Lau player, and only Lau, coz I've only had the game for nine days, and I'm in the middle of my GCSEs. How cruel. Anywho, I've accumilated a little info that seems to be missing elsewhere. Lau's hero's helm is from '9 La', a high knig. You must be in costume one so he's in costume two. Also has the azure spiked bracelets, so you might have to beat him twice for the helm. 'Homer' has the elsusive red disk greaves, as well as the mixed bead cap and the silver pads. Preety rare guy, but hey, it's a labour of love. 'Tyrant Lau' holds the purple greaves and ANOTHER hat. I was too inexperienced to beat him to get it *sniff*. I got the scum several times over, but no hat, a little later, coz I was in the wrong costume and I did't know better. It's red, silver and blue, and I want it (no, not the mixed bead cap. It has a red bobble on the top, not blue). I think you must be in costume one. Ah, the rare 'drangon greaves'. I'm not entirely sure how I got these, but I think it was because I got a ring out in my final round (not against a Lau- it wasn't a steal)... but here's the tricky, or in my case, lucky part. I got a ring out in the water-round-your-feet place, knocking the guy over the fence. Counter-combo the enemy with punches (hold down, then down and foward and punches) and make the final hit a back-flip kick thing. Nastily hard, but the drangon greaves are cool. Dark gold, with bright gold pictures of dragons. Same shape as the wood fairy ones. Oh, and I'm not entirely sure we've got the whole versus-mode item thing right. It's my personal belief that it's about getting As in your stats on the edit file page i.e. it's not turtleing for an entire round, it's getting your high and low blocks up to As. I think. Oh, I'm a dragon Lord, 589/16, 97%. Not all my posts will be this long. Bye.