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Nurturing a young ego

Discussion in 'Dojo' started by vanity, Jun 16, 2005.

  1. vanity

    vanity Well-Known Member

    [damage control]
    ... lol

    see, ev2, when i said that, that was me being a really cocky bastard. like, more of an asshole i've ever been on these forums :p

    i mean, im not saying i would beat them, but i don't think that they're so infinitely better than me that i wouldn't be able to land a hit on them. and i think that was the point i was trying to convey, that with the way i play, i don't think there's anybody it would be impossible (or even near-impossible) to get a win on.

    [/damage control]

    edit - jesus... just reading ev2's post... again, my god am i going to get it /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
     
  2. Genzen

    Genzen Well-Known Member

    Re: Nurturing a young akira

    I asked you multiple times if you were serious, and that when you said ANYBODY, that you really ment ANYBODY. You said that you can point out the mistakes that the top players make, and that your game doesn't have any flaws. You ment what you said so I don't know why you are trying to change what you said. I just figured that you didn't travel because people aren't enough of a challenge for you. I mean, when I played Ryan (Hart), I took a round from him, and about half his health on the other rounds, and I could point out the 'mistakes' he made, but I don't think that make it so that I could beat him, or that I am even in his league......
    I don't see why you are trying to deny what you said, I don't what the problem is in stating that you are good/the best VF player.......
     
  3. Crazy_Galaxy

    Crazy_Galaxy Well-Known Member

    Re: Nurturing a young akira

    Sorry to intrude here but it's kinda getting boring reading about "I can beat that player etc etc etc" ego's intruding in on general faq threads,
    the old phrase actions speak louder than words comes to mind , the end of day if someone is as good as they say they are prove it,
    both things are something all of the top players have demonstrated.
     
  4. vanity

    vanity Well-Known Member

    Re: Nurturing a young akira

    complete exaggeration lol, and when i say im serious - im generally not. i mean, i truly do believe that i could easily give these top players a run for their money, but i don't think i could match some of their win ratios - or beat any of them on a consistent basis (who can?).

    and on another note, i talked to a guy at my school today who reads this forum, and he said i just sound like such as ass, it's unbelieable. so, to those who i may offend with my comments, i apologize. (although, it's not really a sincere apology, im not acknowledging fault, im just saying i have no intentions of malice).
     
  5. Elite

    Elite Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    Koenraku
    Re: Nurturing a young akira

    Just out of curiosity, what makes you think you're so good? Who do you play with regularly? What tournaments/gatherings do you attend etc? Have you ever been to Japan?
     
  6. vanity

    vanity Well-Known Member

    Re: Nurturing a young akira

    I think I'm so good because VF just feels natural to me. It's incredibly difficult to explain.

    I watch top players play, and while I respect their abilities immensely, I don't see them as unbeatable, and I certainly don't think they could walk over me.

    I just feel as if I can naturally adapt to any situation, and for that I don't see how I can possibly become any better. My execution could probably improve - not by a lot, and really not much else.

    As for tournaments and going to Japan, never have been, but would love to go - and my main competition is my fairly competent brother who understands all the basics, but he just doesn't have the ability to adapt the way I do.

    Really though, playing someone who could walk over me would be a dream. (Hanabirei comes to mind /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif)
     
  7. Elite

    Elite Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    Koenraku
    Re: Nurturing a young akira

    So you only ever play your brother? Have you EVER played anyone else? And watching videos is all well and good but it's no subsitute for actually playing the game.
     
  8. vanity

    vanity Well-Known Member

    Re: Nurturing a young akira

    I have played lee on these forums... and I think that watching videos is a pretty good way of gauging skill. although yes, i agree that playing actual people is better, im pretty sure i play at a fairly high level. (when i watch top players play, they rarely do anything that surprises me)
     
  9. sanjuroAKIRA

    sanjuroAKIRA Well-Known Member

    Re: Nurturing a young akira

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    I think that watching videos is a pretty good way of gauging skill

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I've always felt that vids don't do players justice most of the time. The result seems to outweigh the process and you don't get a sense for the energy & creativity they bring to the stick. Also, there's whole reams of nasty shit good players don't do or try in vids because they won't get away with it. Show the good player that he can get away with murder and the mutherfucker will saw your bumpkin ass to pieces and toss you in a box. NEXT!

    You'll see one day /versus/images/graemlins/cool.gif
     
  10. REAL_JEFF_FREE

    REAL_JEFF_FREE Well-Known Member

    Re: Nurturing a young akira

    ...(yawn)...
     
  11. Elite

    Elite Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    Koenraku
    Re: Nurturing a young akira

    I think you should get out there and play more people before you start putting yourself on the same level as players you've seen in videos.

    Isn't there a strong scene near you with FT and everything?
     
  12. vanity

    vanity Well-Known Member

    Re: Nurturing a young akira

    Hmph, while I lack the experience that you do, I'd have to disagree. I see chibita, mask, itazan, segaru, and hana do stuff that just gives me so much respect for them, and I really don't see how that respect could be heightened if they performed the same techniques against me.

    It's just so weird, but when I watch VF vids, it seems to me that only the "top" player vids are entertaining to me - even in games where they lose. I'm sure it's not the name that's doing it for me, it's just this way that they play.

    If anyone remembers about a year ago i think i criticized kyasao's play, and received a lot of flak for it. but when i watched the video posted, he just didn't play with the fire that i recognize in other "top" players. however, i will admit that he has impressed me numerous times. (thus ruling out the name theory)

    so in conclusion, i think i am able to appreciate their play to a fairly accurate degree, without having ever played them. while you seem to be giving the impression that once you do play them your respect for them multiplies rather quickly, im just not so sure that's representative of my case - because i don't think they're *that* much better than me.
     
  13. DRE

    DRE Well-Known Member

    Re: Nurturing a young akira

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    Hmph, while I lack the experience that you do, I'd have to disagree.

    [/ QUOTE ]
    See, you're missing the point. Experience is everything.

    I've played against the real Kyasao. Yes, he's that much better. I can't believe you're comparing yourself to people who've played the game for 10+ years in japan, won tournaments, created strategy guides, etc.

    Vids just don't tell the whole story. Don't be a "living room warrior" man. Experience means alot. Just ask any outside players who've been to arcades in Japan. Ask them what win% they had. I guarantee it was much lower than they expected. Compare that to the win% of people like Kyasao, Chibita, Segaru, Mask, etc. and there's obviously a huge difference. If you seriously think they're not *that* much better than you, then you're just not being very realistic.
     
  14. vanity

    vanity Well-Known Member

    Re: Nurturing a young akira

    it is partly due to ignorance, but i almost refuse to believe that there is a better way to play the game in comparison to the way i play it.
     
  15. Dandy_J

    Dandy_J Well-Known Member

    Re: Nurturing a young akira

    [ QUOTE ]
    vanity said:
    i don't think they're *that* much better than me.

    [/ QUOTE ]
    They are.
     
  16. OffBrandNinja

    OffBrandNinja Well-Known Member

    Re: Nurturing a young akira

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    i almost refuse to believe that there is a better way to play the game in comparison to the way i play it.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Y'know, there have been tons of people that have come through this board claiming to be teh ubar playah. The thing that shocks me is that you have been around for a decent amount of time, yet you post this sort of trash. Your name fits incredibly well, to the extent that I wonder if you're just playing a part here (sort of like a new-age Shang).

    However, if you're truly serious, then please come down to Louisiana. I know of at least one large black man that will show you what it means to be a virtua fighter. Just remember that all the screaming and bleeding was a really bad dream.
     
  17. vanity

    vanity Well-Known Member

    Re: Nurturing a young akira

    yeah the name actually comes from my unreal tournament experiences - where i was also the cockiest sonofabitch around. the difference was there was online play in ut, so i could back up my mouth with relative ease - and did so very often!

    and... i wouldn't necessarily call it a part, it's just that i really don't see myself getting any better. i mean, at pretty much any game i play, i can point out faults in my game, and i understand what i need to do to get better - but i don't have those feelings for vf. i feel like i've peaked, and i feel like i know all there is to know for my mains.
     
  18. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

    PSN:
    Myke623
    XBL:
    Myke623
    Re: Nurturing a young akira

    [ QUOTE ]
    vanity said:
    but i don't have those feelings for vf. i feel like i've peaked, and i feel like i know all there is to know for my mains.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    This may come across as arrogant when I say that you really don't know VF yet, but you really should heed the words the more experienced people on here have offered you, including mine.

    It just astounds me to read a statement like that from someone with zero experience with "outside" competition (your brother doesn't really count) or tournament/gathering play. Assessing or comparing your own skill level purely based on match videos carries no weight whatsoever. The advice and critique you've given in the past up until this very thread has continually shown how lacking in experience you are.

    One last thing regarding your comment: It's very easy to "peak" when your entire existence has been limited to the tip of the iceberg.
     
  19. KiwE

    KiwE Well-Known Member

    Re: Nurturing a young akira

    I can't believe what I'm reading, tbh you should be glad you haven't been bashed more by the people so far (suprised me alot). Vanity, who's main sparringpartner is his "fairly competent (kid?)brother" thinks he's better then all the players he's seen and that are here and would give them a "run for their money". He bases this of watching videos, writes a "I'm a textbook vf player therefor I'm better than you!" signature and then goes on to recommends bodychecks as roundopeners.
    Which vid did you pick that up in Vanity? You judge Kyaso's skill as low etc but let me tell you he would laugh his tits of watching you bodycheck as a roundopener against your brother all the time and then coming to the conclusion that it's great and giving it as a protip, that's for sure.

    Wtf dude, do some REAL damage control... go and play in a real tournament / some real competition. It's a win / win situation for you - either you get humbled or you prove that you're not the moron people have been led to believe and that you actually CAN play VS. I know where my money is.

    If this thread goes on the same way I'm getting popcorn or something - I mean come on.

    /KiwE (P.S the "nurturing a young akira" threadtitle sounds ghey to me somehow /versus/images/graemlins/wink.gif /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /versus/images/graemlins/lol.gif )
     
  20. sanjuroAKIRA

    sanjuroAKIRA Well-Known Member

    Re: Nurturing a young akira

    Dude, I like the "nurturing a young akira" thread title...it is the one thing that differentiates the thread from a thousand other threads asking for akira advice...it seems real sincere. Then akiralove busts out with a couple dope posts in the genuine interest of helping akanakira (who's gonna be a beast with the climbing the mountain attitude and access to singapore scene & guys like Danny13 & Ice-9). I was inspired to actually (gasp!) write a gameplay post.

    And then we have vanity. Taking another shit on another thread. The problem is, he won't stop. One or two people post then PLOP PLOP. More shit dribbles pile on a thread that could have or should have been useful for something other than pointless assertions of gaming greatness.

    Meanwhile there are akira players out there struggling with their inputs and approach to the game trying to fully unleash the power they know their character has but they can only now and again flirt with. This thread should be for them, not some stupid motherfucker who figures he has everything dialed and starts every match by [4][4]running[4][4]the fuck[4][4]away.
     

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