Sorry guys, I made an error of BLUNDERING proportions. Instead of deleting a post of mine, I accidentally deleted the entire thread!!!! Aaargh! Sorry, sorry. Thankfully, I have it saved. I'll just repost what's been posted thus far in this one message. --- adamYUKI Sept. 5th - Sept. 9th. First 2 days tournament and last 2 days gathering style play. We will try for some non-vf activities in between (like BBQ, beach, etc.) Place will be budgethosteastend.com. I will try to get at least 5 complimentary rooms with 2 double beds in each. Since it is after labor day weekend and the hotel won't be as busy, getting those hotel rooms shouldn't be that hard. We will play in meeting room with 2 projector set-ups and a couple of TV set-ups. Everyone will bring memory cards with new profiles just for this event. What do you guys think? If it is to happen, we should start planning now. Lets start training, mutha fukkuz! --- In reply to adamyuki, Blonde_one: OH my God, its Mutha Fuckin Adam Yuki, Me thinks. lol. Well I'm there. Anybody who can make it defintetly should. You guys can count us Fl. guys being there for sure. At least 3 of us anyway =P. later. --- In reply to adamyuki, hiro: I guess I can go, but it depends on my teaching schedule... I'm new to the school so I have no idea how undergrad classes are scheduled. (If I know someone, I could ask him to teach but I don't know anyone in the department yet.) Of course, I don't have to make a post to tell you this since I see you in NY anyways, but I wanna get Shota to come. Otherwise, it's not gonna be much fun. hiro --- In reply to adamyuki, stompoutloud: If I am not working, I am in. I am from Florida too. --- In reply to adamyuki, Jedi_Fei: Im all over this, Im one of the three guys Blonde mentioned. --- In reply to adamyuki, Kageh: Not sure on the exact dates, but e7 is going to be taking place sometime in Sept. It's a bunch of console tourneys that they have in Iowa every 6 months or so in a lot of games. They will most likely have vf4 there (Shota won the last tournament) and I know some peeps are going to bring soul calibur 2 boards for a tourney in that also. Anyway, I'll be in School again during sept, and it would be easier to drive out to e7 from Champaign for a weekend instead of fly out to NY from Chicago. Sorry if I can't make it. Hope it ends up rocking house though. --- And finally, my own post in reply to adamyuki...once again, sorry for the blunder folks; ice-9: Seeing as how I haven't written anything of substance for quite a while, and since I haven't really written anything about my always gracious hosts in NY, I'm going to take the opportunity to create some hype for the planned NYG in September. Plus I'm bored, my extended family vacationing here in Singapore finally left, and my stuff from Duke (along with my computer) won't be arriving until Tuesday. I didn't get the chance to play all the NY folks to the same depth, so I'll keep my comments to the people I played the most with. The one interesting feature of the NY players is how distinctive their playing style is. I swear, take any of these guys playing, put it on a clip, and I'll be able to tell who's playing at any point. CrewNYC First off, Andy! Andy's VF4 Lau is the true successor to his VF3 Pai. They play the same way...aggressive and in your face, but VF4 Lau inflicts damage much more efficiently than did VF3 Pai! I think someone not used to Lau or used to playing at such a pace will be easily destroyed by Andy. Andy loves rushing in with b,b+P and d/f,d/f+P. He also likes to use K cancel and d+K cancel to confuse opponents. One of his favorite tricks is to K cancel -> throw (something that danny13 also likes to do). Andy is great with approaching opponents with a d+K cancel and forcing the guessing game. In addition to that, the fact that Andy sometimes does the double-low-kicks instead of low kick, heel kick by accident makes his d+K cancelling technique rather unpredictable, heh heh. On paper, you'd think that a Lau that relies on P,P,P,d+K and P,P,P,b+K for a significant chunk of damage would be disadvantaged and even a little scrubby...but it's amazing how much Andy is able to get away with it. Andy's only weakness is that he doesn't watch stance and thus, his Lau is unable to execute maximum damage combos consistently. Oh yeah, his Wolf sucks!! Outside of Andy's Lau, I thought his Lei Fei was quite good and rather fancy. hiro Hiro has a scary Wolf, and if you're not used to playing against Wolf, Hiro will be sure to punish you over and over until you learn. Hiro uses P and LP to control the match, seems to know exactly when to use the HCB+P,P, utilizes Wolf's catch throws very effectively, and is highly adept with his crumble and stagger options/flowcharts. If you cannot deal with Wolf's P+K or b+P, Hiro will kill you with these alone. His Wolf is also the only Wolf that I've played against that uses HCB+P+G, G, d+P+G well. Hiro also plays Lei Fei and Akira. While Hiro's secondary characters aren't flashy at all, they are effective, but not quite as strong as his Wolf. If I'm not wrong, I think his Wolf is 9 or 10 dan in Osaka, and he plays in the strongest arcade there. Possibly the strongest player overall in the U.S. nsxw0016 Nam is a Kage player, and while he doesn't use many moves, Nam utilizes Kage extremely efficiently. Maximum damage combos and the best moves only, Nam's Kage is lean, but mean. Nam controls the pace of the match well, pressurizes the opponent to play his game, and will abuse whatever works until it no longer does. Nam likes Kage's LP, elbow, heelkick, and d/f+P. He loves back dashing and punishing with D/F+P, and his favorite Jumonji string is P+K -> P+K (hold) -> LP if opponent blocks both sabakis. Nam's Kage is the kind of opponent that you either just do well or do badly against, though I think most people here will find the latter. My Jacky and Lau fared badly against his Kage, while my Shun, Jeffry, and Vanessa did well. piccolo Sal is ideologically the opposite of Nam. While Nam's Kage is efficient, Sal's Kage is flashy. Sal uses all of Kage's moves and has some of the funniest combos. One thing he taught me: BT P+K,K > P+K. If the opponent doesn't TR, punish with JM f+K. Niiice! Sal's Kage is really fun to watch and looks impressive, but unfortunately I didn't get the chance to play Sal's Kage to find out how well his flashy play would translate in tournament situations. Sal plays a variety of other characters, and is generally quite good with most of them, but it is his Kage that I seem to remember most...probably because it is quite interesting for me to see two players with characters so diametrically opposed to each other in style from the same area! adamYUKI Adam is known as an Akira player in VF3, but everyone knew that he had a tough Jeffry. In VF4, Adam is putting Akira on the backburner and is concentrating first on Jeffry. Adam's VF4 Jeffry is just as tough as his VF3 Jeffry (if not quite as brutal). It's hard to describe his Jeffry but two moves he uses extremely well are b+P and sidekick. The former as a quick, in-range middle attack, and the latter as a long distance interrupting tool. Of course, Adam also uses the LP well. Adam's blocking skill in VF4 is not quite as impenetrable as it was in VF3, but it is still pretty good, and defense is still his forte. His okizeme is strong and he inflicts most of his damage while the opponent struggles to get up. Adam plays an EXTREMELY scrubby Lau...but guess what, his Lau is possibly the most damning and difficult character I have ever had the privilege of playing against outside Japan!! In fact, his Lau is so..."specific," that I am scared to use my Kage against his Lau. I feel that to beat his Lau, you must play his game, and to beat him at his own game is to change your playing style. I swear, the previous time my Kage had a deathmatch against his Lau, my Kage got worse--better against his Lau, but impaired against everyone else! Adam: who's the Master of the Universe? =) The interesting thing about Adam is his ability to control the pace of the game to his own liking, which is sloooow. People keep asking me how they would match up against Adam, but to be honest, it's a hard question to answer. The real question is, how well do you play at his pace? You could be really good but have a hard time against Adam, or you can be just so-so and do better. In fact, if I had to select just one person in the U.S. that I think would have the best chance of beating, say Chibita, I would have to say Adam. On the off chance that Chibita doesn't adjust well to Adam's slow pace, Adam has a prayer of winning. Of course, if that doesn't faze Chibita one bit, we can just kiss Adam's basic Jeffry sayonara and substitute myself instead, mwahahahaha!! *Ahem* Oh yeah, Adam has one big weakness, and he'll probably kill me for spilling, but let's give him some incentive to hit the Training Mode. In two words: chargeable attacks. Shang Even though Shang isn't from NYC, Shang was present the two times that I was in New York, so I will also mention a few words about him here. The first thing that jumps to mind is how awfully cool his customized characters are. His 1P and 2P Aois are rather hot!...as far as female gaming characters go, at least. While I think Shang considers himself an Akira player first and a Wolf player second, I liked his Aoi the most. Shang uses Aoi's elbow cancel flowchart very well, has great okizeme if I remember right, and generally is just able to win with Aoi (my impression was that he won more with Aoi than Akira or Wolf). His Akira and Wolf are of course solid. His Wolf is adept at interrupting opponent's rising kicks with a knee. His Akira knows most of the tricks, but I think he had some trouble executing the ST -> D,f+P -> D,b,f+P, but I don't know any Akira in the U.S. that doesn't. Omaha Jeffry Unfortunately, I never really got to play Rodney enough such that I would have a handle on his style of play...the poor guy's always the first to hit the sack on a VF night! I think Rodney was in a state of transition when I visited, experimenting with Akira and Lion outside of his usual Jeffry. I can sympathize with him as there are quite a lot of people playing Jeffry nowadays. His Akira is a little rough but I thought his Lion was moving along extremely well...I think it's just a matter of time before his Lion gets to the same level as his Jeffry. Good thing too, because when I was in New York I was the only other guy playing Lion! OK, I think I've written enough here. I hope this is enough hype to get people interested in attending the NYG. I doubt I would be able to make the event, but I've really enjoyed all the previous gatherings in NYC. I must applaud all the NYC folks and especially Hiro and Adam for being such wonderful hosts. Hmmm...all this hype...I must take the time to write something about the Singaporean players here as well. There are some really good players in Singapore, and I think some of these guys will open a lot of eyes in the U.S. As I promised Adam, I have some matches saved up on a memory card, and once I figure how to get it up on the 'Net I'll do so.