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Pancratium as THE oldest real martial art...

Discussion in 'Junky's Jungle' started by HugeDude, Nov 3, 2002.

  1. HugeDude

    HugeDude Member

    I honestly don't know if i'm the only one really interested in Jeffry's style of fighting, but I'd really like to know where the people who created his style got their ideas from... I'm simply interested if this (REALLY ugly but EXTREMELY effective) style of fighting has already been forgotten or not...

    Yours Truly,
  2. Chill

    Chill +40 DP Content Manager Shun Gold Supporter

    Chill PKG
    CHARACTER BIO'S" text.

    "FIGHTING STYLE: The fighting arms without weapon training, was used by the
    fighters in the Ancient roman Empire. This style of fighting power was called
    Pancratium. Pancratium is an advanced style of fighting based on the primitive
    attacks of knock-out, throw, or strangulation. This style is very similar to
    Sumo Wrestling. Therefore, its style becomes one of the most deadly Virtua
    Fighting Styles, because it seeks to completely strike down an opponent
  3. HugeDude

    HugeDude Member

    OK, this is just stupid replying to my own post, but an addition to the previous one: are there really documents (amphora fragments, written data???) about the Ancient Olympic sport of Pancratium? If ANYONE knew, I would really appreciate any piece of information...
  4. HugeDude

    HugeDude Member

    Thank You for the reply (which really wasn't all that necessary), but the art of Pancratium dates back to the Ancient Olympic GAmes of the Greeks, not the Romans (my deepest regrets to the game developers and the upkeepers of this site for that unfortunate mistake...), not the savage and brutal "displays of strength" of the Roman Empire...
  5. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    Ok, lesson one - sega, in terms of defining fighting arts, are a little off. Jeffry's fighting style bares NO resemblence to sumo. Sumo's primary objective is to set the opponent off balance so that they are forced to make contact with the ground with a part of their body besides their foot. Jeffry's fighting art, at it's inception, was based on beating the living snot out of the other person by all means nessisairy.
  6. HugeDude

    HugeDude Member

    Oh yes, someone else also reads Sun Tzu... Really, the point of my post was to attract the interest of the modern day "Pancratium"-enthusiasts.... I don't think that there really can be found any else but me... =(
  7. Two_Bit_Mage

    Two_Bit_Mage Well-Known Member

    Why dont ya try out google,com I found stuff on nitten ichi ryu, Torou ken, suiken and jeet kune do..im pretty sure you could find something like pancratium or whatever
  8. martialfanatic

    martialfanatic Well-Known Member

    Man, I had found a real life pancratium site...but had to format my computer so it isn't in my favorites (tried to save favorites but they won't work for some strange reason). I love that art too, but it's way more harsh than VF depicts it.

    Try searching for Pankration. Pancratium is a more modern name for that same art. I've found better results using that name, and I prefer to call it that too (though many VF fans get confused so I stick to Pancratium).
  9. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

  10. Two_Bit_Mage

    Two_Bit_Mage Well-Known Member

    Since shun di has a name similar to the founder of suiken, then i wonder if jeffery was named after one of the famous pancratium practitioners...
  11. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    I don't see Jeffery as a particularly greek name....or roman even.
  12. Akebono

    Akebono Well-Known Member

    From the look of that website, You cant be good at pancratium unless you have wild hair lol.
  13. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    heh, Jim is not known for his barber
  14. Joe the Classicist

    Joe the Classicist New Member

    Pancratium is known in the Odes of Pindar, 5th century B.C., where he writes of winners of Olympic and various other series of games in various categories. Pindar was a poet who wrote poems celebrating Olympic victors. Think of him as the ESPN Color Commentary of 5th century Ancient Greece. He wrote odes for victors in the Olympian, Pythian, Nemean and Isthmian games. In Nemean Ode #2, he commemorates one Timodemos, from a suburb of Athens, who won the Pancratium in the Nemean games (dedicated to Zeus) in possibly the 490s B.C.
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