playing EVO in preparation for VF5?

This may be a dumb question but do you guys recommend digging EVO out as "practice" for VF5? I ask because I come mostly from a background in Tekken, I spent sometime over Christmas to honestly try and learn to like DOA4 (didnt take, the staggering is ridiculous). I've dabbled in VF over the years but was always too late i.e. getting dreamcast at end of lifespan/VF3TB and PS2 only a year ago/EVO. I have not learned SPoD (not an Akira fan in general, which indicates my skill level, Sarah/Vanessa/Jacky person).

I am sick of the Tekken jugglefest and want to get back to the roots of why I started playing 3D fighters in the first place. Realistic martial arts, but at the same time I want VF to feel fresh and fun come this summer and not get too deep into EVO where its like "oh, you just paid $60 for a game and they added 4 moves".

So... based on this, my question to the vets is. Would you say that the gap is big enough to catch up to that I should kick up EVO again? after all we in the West are already far enough behind Japan

Oh if you're wondering why I've had EVO but not played it much, the answer is no competition (probably not new to a lot of you) and honestly I felt VF4 had technical complexity but lacked move innovation compared to Tekken at the time. I feel the situtation is reversed now.

 

Well, I can't really say if the gap is big enough, but I know I've started playing EVO again out of impatience. I just can't stand waiting for VF5

I think, that you should definitely play some more EVO, so when VF5 comes out, you'll just have to learn the differences, not the whole game.
In EVO there are great Tutorials, and even if you went through all of them, practice some Throw Escapes, and it's variations (Evading, +Guard) and other even more advanced things, that will definitely be useful in VF5.

 

Ok then I guess the real question is, how many move changes, priorities, changeups, hit locations etc are different between VF4 and VF5? (roughly). I guess I really want to avoid stuff that I'll have to relearn come summer anyway if there's a lot of it. Thats probably my biggest peeve with fighters, KOF and recently SC2 to SC3 where you had to relearn Kilik and Mitsu and many players couldnt be bothered on top of the throw cancel nonsense.

 

yes definitely,
if you have a scene already in place it will help you get competitive that much quicker than if you were to start straight off from 5 as you understand fundementals, there's no way you can learn
everything there is to know about vf in time for 5 so get cracking /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

I can only speak from experience from moving from evo to ft, at first I was playing it like evo, which is not a totally bad thing as you are still playing the system (albeit not to full effectiveness) just not fully understanding the meaningful changes, after a few weeks/months I adapted,
if I had started fresh on ft for vf then it would have taken alot longer to play ok'ish, the character specific changes can be quickly learnt in my opinion, getting the basics understanding of vf is more important.
p.s I remember using vf3 on dreamcast to help play vf4 pre console release, even that helped though they are very different games.

 

strangely, i took out my copy of evo last night to practise as well . its been more than a year since i touched that copy of evo. learning aoi too for the first time /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

I played EVO, FT and now I'm playing VF5. while a lot of people may think that there isn't much deference between FT and 5, I think the opposite. not only the game feels deferent (it feels more dynamic IMO), there is a lot of new adjustment that have to be taken in mind.

and i agree with Griever and optimus to start practicing on EVO till VF5 comes. it will definitely help a lot. 

 

i have vf4 and vfevo.vfevo its much better than vf4.i want play and vfft but here in cyprus i dont think so to play it.im waiting the vf5.the best game ever made.sorry my friend for my bad english

 

I've been playing EVO for a bit, trying to learn Aoi, and for the first few hours, I just SUCKED. Then I realized the pad I was using was just bad, so I kinda improved. But it's still horrible when I face 9th stage (final) Akira- he just KILLS me. Sometimes these CPU opponents seem psychic, darn it. I am thinking that VF5 moves easier and faster than this- I feel like Aoi's mired in mud as she moves. Got lots of practice to do...

 

hey! what do you know, by replaying it a bit again now, I picked up Brad in Evo.. and you know what, he's kind of fun.

I've been trying to learn Aoi since VF3TB on Dreamcast... even if I'm able to memorise her moveslist, I fail totally in application. I'm using the wrong moves at wrong time and trying to counter hit with the wrong moves often.
Maybe too much Shun, Lau and Wolf probably ruined me for life, I totally suck playing as Aoi

 

Trying to counter based on an empty guess is dumb..Try Forcing your opponent to throw out moves. When your forcing one particualar move set its a lil bit easierto counter and react than when hes preasurring you

Thats just what i think

 

dont worry about it. as long as you use decent punctuation and good spelling(which you are doing), you will type better than a majority of forum members. and english isnt your main language so its cool.

anyways, ive had the game for a while ive been playing with lau since around Vf4 came out(though i was playing on a vf3 machine). after a while, i got stuck so i stopped playing. i picked it up a few weeks ago and with the information i found in this forum, i decided to try jacky and i am twice as good with him as i am with lau. i am learning how to read throws now. evading them is another story though.

I havent played Vf5 or final tuned yet, but im guessing that if you complete all of the training and tutorials, you should be good for Vf5. Heck, you could probably just complete half of the tutorials and you would be good.