President Bush going down?

With the recent current events of the media covering the fake evidence by the CIA which was put in the State of the Union Address that Iraq was trying the get uranium from Africa, international and domestic officials are having a field day on the credibility of President Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair on their decision to sending troops into War.

Obviously this is not including:

U.S. soldiers getting killed everyday due to the lack of presence of more military forces.

No sign of Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Ladin who were supposely involved in the plans of 9/11 in NYC.

U.S. deficit Ballooning to 455 billion dollars.

I really hope he doesn't get re-elected. And if solid evidence of him using 9/11 as a excuse for Iraq war ever surfaces, Oh man U.S. image is going to be fucked even more with the international community.

 

After our past 2 presidents I don't think the "U.S. Image" could be tarnished much more.

 

Smurfy: You needed an article to tell you that Bush was a shithead? The defecit, going into war for fake reasons, pissing everyone off, totally fucking up the employment rate, not giving a shit about global policy to the point we get bombed.

Remember when we impeached our president for getting a blow job?

On that note:
Replicant: Besides the aforementioned 'tarnish' I think Clinton did a damn good job. He was by far the smartest president in the whitehouse in the last 50 years. Those smarts just went out the window when his dick got hard, which is what happens to most men.

 

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GaijinPunch said:
On that note:
Replicant: Besides the aforementioned 'tarnish' I think Clinton did a damn good job. He was by far the smartest president in the whitehouse in the last 50 years. Those smarts just went out the window when his dick got hard, which is what happens to most men.

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I don't have a problem with Clinton or even Bush Senior just junior Bush boy over here which he spends most of his time at his Texas ranch anyways. And what the F is up with that? But truthfully Bush only acts stupid because he's been doing it so long and can get away with it. Believe me the Wanker isn't nearly as dumb as he looks. /versus/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

My opinion of Clinton's image is probably better then ever compare to when he was in office. Now people realize what a freaking genius he is in dealing with people and sharping the future. I didn't buy the B.S. with Clinton not being a major contributing factor in helping the 90s economy strong growth. In comparison the republician party hurts the economy just by staying in office, if you ask me.

Hey you can't blame the man for not using his brains when his dick hasn't been getting any loving by Hillary. The Man's balls must have gotten to be the size of watermelons after the conception of little Chelsea until his White House days I bet. Monica must have been really good with the cigar for him to hug her in public. /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

The one good thing that could come from is war mongering would be that he is a one term president. Assuming that a democrat can stand up to him.

All this talk of 16 words that were a lie, he sounds more like Clinton than Clinton did. 16 words, Dubya how about 1600.

 

There is a key difference between Clinton and Bush - what with Lewinsky, Clinton made a personal error that had NOTHING to do with the security, economy, or policy of america. Bush LIED to the american public as a means to enact his foreign policy (read - goto war).
Bush Jr is not going down, he has raised and increadible amount of money. Though I am loath to say it, he is probally going to be a 2 term president.

 

Unfortunately.. at this point there are no really reputable Democratic canidates stepping up. I really want to see someone get bush out, but we need someone people can rally behind.

I agree that Bush is either a. an idiot being manipulated or b. playing an idiot so he can get away with this shit.

 

That's the primary problem...the D-Party even has Al Sharpton running I think, so THINK ABOUT THAT. Regardless, the American public WILL turn on Bush if the Guerilla War continues, and boys keep getting shipped home in bags. But Bush will get reelected because there is no way for any opponent of Bush to prove the Administration blatantly deceived the American people. You can rest assurred other heads, like this CIA clown, will roll long before then. And the Democrats are a truly disorganized, unfocused, idea-decrepit group right now...if they expect to get elected by proving Bush is a giant asshole, they're in trouble.

 

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GaijinPunch said:
Remember when we impeached our president for getting a blow job?


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Nice quote, made me laugh....

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I think that Bush has had alot of shit to deal with:

-9/11 attacks
-Afghanistan
-Iraq
-Oil
-Economy
-Terrorism (like Anthrax and all that stuff)
-AIDs in Africa
-The UN
-The Stock Market

And many many others things, the list could go on for a while.

The point is that, this is probably one of the biggest things that people can criticize him for, and they are taking the opportunity to do so.

He has done a good job imo of running the country, up until the war with Iraq, take a look at the pre-war civil disputes between the people and his administration:

-There were so many rallies about not wanting to go to war with Iraq (and Afghanistan, though not as much)

-We took many, many of our casulties from friendly fire, that is just horrific......

-Soldiers are still under attack today....

There are more...


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I have heard (from a bunch of politicians/actors/people that Bush is trying to clean up his fathers mess in Iraq, maybe by any means necessary...

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When Saddam gassed the Kurds in the 88(?), this is when we needed to strike, and the gulf war.........but now?

I cannot see any positive objectives that have been accomplished, with the exception that Saddam is ousted from the seat of power, but at what cost......

Do you guys think:

-Was there reason to go into Iraq?
-Did we have any business going into Iraq?
-Does Iraq pose a threat to US, before the war?

 

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EmpNovA said:
-Was there reason to go into Iraq?
-Did we have any business going into Iraq?
-Does Iraq pose a threat to US, before the war?


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1. There were a multitude of reasons to go into Iraq, but a good majority of those started back in the Reagan/Bush Sr. Eras. So quite a few weren't really current.
2. From a stand-point of trying to actually help the Iraqi people I would have to say yes, but I personally have always felt we were going into Iraq from a business focus. I still believe Bush jr. went to Iraq to work at gaining control and policing it's resources.
3. Potentially, yes. Although, none of these alleged threats have been proven at this point. He had a history of ties with terrorism, usage and creation of biological agents, and was reported to be in the process of nuclear weapon creation. None of this has been proven, but many reports over the years did bring these up as solid possibilities.

 

Bush is in my opinion one of the worst, perhaps even the worst President we've ever had. In a manner of years, he's managed to invade and conquer two sovereign countries ( I only see Afghanistan as being justified), reduced our rights, attempted to cause paranoia similar to the Red Scare way back in the 50s, even further damaged the US global image, AND driven us into massive debt. To top it off, he can't even speak correctly. "One day, man will enter the solar system." That kind of thing takes either true stupidity or a shifty bastard trying really hard to trick people. Either way, I don't trust him. Clinton at least was a damn good politician. But he decided to get his knob shined on the job, which would have gotten anyone else here fired, and then he bombed a damn aspirin factory claiming it was a methamphetamine factory to take the heat of the spotlights off of him. Dammit, I'm just gonna do a write in for Satan in the next election. Why keep trying to choose the lesser of two evils?

 

First of all, it is NOT Bush's fault for AID's in africa...it is our fault for sitting by while the country kills itself.

 

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KTallguy said:

Unfortunately.. at this point there are no really reputable Democratic canidates stepping up. I really want to see someone get bush out, but we need someone people can rally behind.

I agree that Bush is either a. an idiot being manipulated or b. playing an idiot so he can get away with this shit.

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I suggest you visit Howard Dean's weblog. The man will impress you if you give him five minutes.

And Bush won't be getting away with things for very much longer. I suspect we're going to see the last of him very soon.

 

If YOu don't mind could you share your little info with the rest of the group? /versus/images/graemlins/confused.gif

I see no signs of him getting sack little alone getting penalties for his decisions as President. And even if he's brought up on charges of any war crimes he still with a high chance of getting off gult free. /versus/images/graemlins/frown.gif

The lastest news on Dr. David Kelly who's death was supposely sucide from evidence of his wrist being slashed. Man is it me or all this sounds like a freaking movie? And here's the link to BBC article.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3079787.stm

 

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kungfusmurf said:

If YOu don't mind could you share your little info with the rest of the group? /versus/images/graemlins/confused.gif

I see no signs of him getting sack little alone getting penalties for his decisions as President. And even if he's brought up on charges of any war crimes he still with a high chance of getting off gult free. /versus/images/graemlins/frown.gif

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I don't see how this is really a surprise, especially now. Given the state of the economy, the deteriorating situation in Iraq, and the growing controversy over the White House's rush to war in Iraq, Bush looks very untenable. If you know the details of these problems, you know they won't magically solve themselves anytime soon. Things are bad now, and likely to get worse before they get better. And the policies of this President guarantee that they'll be getting worse.

If you need more convincing, I suggest you read the wider-read weblogs, like Atrios, Daily Kos, and Talking Points Memo. Oh, and don't forget my blog, either! /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

And, again, everyone should spend time at the Howard Dean weblog. It really is the Next Big Thing in American politics. And Dean is a real fighter, too.

 

Being from Texas, everyone thought Big Bush was going to be re-elected for a 2nd term. Hehe. I was one of two democrats in my sheltered private school, and I think the only one to not own a gun. /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I said this before the election and I'll say it again. We just don't need another Texan in the whitehouse. Johnson, and two Bushes = 3 big fucking strikes.

 

Dean

I've actually heard about him and visited his website, although I haven't really went through it in detail...

He'd probably be an interesting canidate! But the problem is, how many people recognize his name ? I knew about him but that was really your luck =)

He needs to get his name out there more... and I know he's doing all this web-savvy stuff but he'll need to use more traditional marketing to reach the majority of the people that he needs to make an impression on.

Thanks for the heads up though! =)

 

Answers to 3 questions:

We are there for oil and war profiteering. If you mean justification, NO! Bush lied and exaggerated the case for Saddam having nukes and other WMDs. He and the administration also made misleading statements about a fictional link between Bin laden and Hussein.

This is documented in a Time Magazine article in the issue bearing the headline "Untruth and Consequences." There are far better exposes of Junior's shenanigans, but this is in the corporate media and even here Jr.'s regime seems corrupt and guilty. Let's not forget that Colin Powell's son was a member (the chairman maybe?) of the FCC board that allowed Aol to acquire Time/Warner and make Colin Powell millions of $. This is a whole different stroy, but this just underscores the fact that, if anything this publication, along with other corporate media outlets, have, at the very least, a pro-establishment slant. (Has any person in the history of U.S. politics been more emblematic of established and entrenched money and power than Junior?)

The problem is that the Jr. regime's transgressions have been so blatant and the consequenced so severe that they really sell magazines. Our corrupt fucked-up media can't help cannibalizing its sugar daddy under such circumstances.

This doesn't even address the fact that a pre-emptive strike is unprecented and anathema to the foreign policy of civilized nations.

FIFTY THREE PERCENT of Americans believed Saddam was directly involved in the Trade Center Attack when asked before the war. This means that on a very important fact that had grave implications for national and world security, most Americans were misinformed and dead wrong. This is a matter of fact. People are dying and the country is hemorraging dollars. Ignorance has consequencs, people.

FIFTY-FIVE PERCENT of Americans approve the job that Junior is doing! Why do so many people in the world despise us? Maybe because we have the 21st century equivilent of a world empire and our citizenry consists mostly of provincial idiots. Add to that the fact that our leader has had every chance to become a worldy, educated, enculturated man, yet instead is the most provicial of idiots, and it easy to see why we are in the position we are in. Fuck.

 

Yes, the average American is dumber than a bag of rocks, but you have to have hope. Bush's approval ratings, as well as his electability numbers, have been plummeting. In fact, the only things in his tenure that boosted his poll numbers were -- surprise -- the 9/11 attacks and the runup to the Iraq war. And -- surprise again -- there's some serious questions about his handling of both.

The way things are going, Bush is headed for private life once again. What a job record, eh?

 

Considering what Bush has done so far, one wonders what he would have to do to get his approval rating below 50%. Eat a baby during a press conference? Blow up the moon with a nuclear warhead? Get caught having sex with bin Ladin?

The thing is, just about everyone I know can't stand Junior and is scared shitless. But then again I really try to be around certain kinds of people and, uh, avoid others to the extent that I can.

I think that in cities, Bush is much less popular than in "the heartland." His supporters, besides the pro-business, corporate toady set, would seem to be mostly rural, small town, "god-fearing" folk who by and large probably don't know too much about the world and most likely haven't seen a large portion of it either. Of course this is a slight oversimplification, but there are just too many Americans whose perception of reality is shaped mostly by the tv and their insular communities. This definitely works to Junior's advantage.

Regime change begins at home!