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Punishment list

Discussion in 'Dojo' started by KowtowRobinson, Nov 3, 2007.

  1. KowtowRobinson

    KowtowRobinson Well-Known Member

    New to the game, coming over from Soul Calibur. I understand the gist of the differences in how frames work between the two games, what I'm looking for mainly is a list of punishable moves for each character.

    Right now I feel like I'm missing out on a lot of free damage, and letting people use strings they really shouldn't be getting away with.
     
  2. Shag

    Shag Well-Known Member

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    I don't think anyone putout a definitive punishment list for each character for VF5. I'll check or perhaps work on writing up one.

    You can check characters movelists and look for moves that recover after +12 after been guarded.

    For starters, almost all launchers and sweeps if blocked can be punished.

    Characters who have long attack strings mostly have a weakness; the last hit will be high and can be ducked or if blocked mid or low should be able to go for a guaranteed hit.
     
  3. KowtowRobinson

    KowtowRobinson Well-Known Member

    The character's movelists are somewhere here in the dojo I'm guessing? I'll poke around and post the link here if I find it, if not I'm sure someone else knows where to get it.

    loledit: it's right on the damn sidebar. A punishment list would be pretty useful though, for quick access.
     
  4. Chibitox

    Chibitox Well-Known Member Bronze Supporter

  5. KowtowRobinson

    KowtowRobinson Well-Known Member

    Yeah I noticed that, and definitely some good info in the wiki, but it's not really a list of punishable moves for the characters, it's a list of what moves to punish WITH. Other than reading through everyone's frame tables, there isn't an actual punishment list out there yet.
     
  6. Yupa

    Yupa Well-Known Member

    You said it yourself, everything you need is there. Look at guard advantage you get after blocking an attack, then compare with attack executions... If the execution time < block stun, you can punish with the attack. There will be exeptions because of idiosyncracies with different moves (they push too far away, etc.) but you can put together a basic list right there.

    It's not that easy anyway... play the game. Try (what you think are) stupid stuff once in a while... you might find something useful. I do all the time.
     
  7. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    I'm working on adding some extra functionality to the command lists so that you can just pull, for example, all throw or punch guaranteed attacks for a certain character.

    For now, you might find it helpful to click on the "Grd" column to sort the command list by this field. This way you can easily see all the -12 on guard attacks grouped together, etc.

    In general, if a column is clickable, then you can sort the list by that field. Click on the "Name & Command" field to return to the default view.
     
  8. KoD

    KoD Well-Known Member

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  9. KowtowRobinson

    KowtowRobinson Well-Known Member

    Didn't even know those movelists had that many options, thanks for the help.
     
  10. Krit

    Krit Active Member

    Fancy meeting YOU here. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
     
  11. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    Just to close the loop on this, now you can use a command list filter to give you a punishment list for any character:

    Filter: Guard <= -12
     
  12. Griever

    Griever Well-Known Member

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    Wow! This is a great option! Nice thing Myke! Thanks!
     
  13. ShardZ

    ShardZ New Member

    god kowtow you're such a fucking nub can't figure this shit out by yourself

    <3!
     

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