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Revenge of the Sith

Discussion in 'General' started by RandomHajile, May 19, 2005.

  1. sanjuroAKIRA

    sanjuroAKIRA Well-Known Member

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    In short, don't take too seriously the criticism of the movie by an individual who you suspect may have a homemade Boba Fett costume in his closet.

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    MUTHERFUCKER MY SHIT IS AU-THEN-TIC.
     
  2. DissMaster

    DissMaster Well-Known Member

    Star Wars Party

    How 'bout I put on my Chewbacca costume and you can be Boba Fett. Then I'll use the Force to levitate my "light saber," heh heh.
     
  3. sanjuroAKIRA

    sanjuroAKIRA Well-Known Member

    Re: Star Wars Party

    Impressive.

    Most impressive.

    But you are not a jedi yet.

    Plunging your photon torpedo into my exhaust hatch ain't like dustin' crops, boy.

    Plus, I heard your R2 unit has a bad motivator.
     
  4. Chanchai

    Chanchai Well-Known Member

    Desensitized by Episode II, and very much happy that I wasn't put sour by Episode III... I came out of the theatre giving it a straight B. However, the next day, changed that grade to a C+.

    I still admit, I'm rating it higher than I normally would, simply because Episode II set a new low bar for failure.

    The movie was adequately entertaining. Some fights were nice (decent). Almost all fights (aside from maybe the last two) made a good argument for why more flash does not make for more intense or exciting fights (generally no tension with lots of motion all around). Episode IV's fight between obi-wan and vader has more tension in three seconds than the sum of all fights in Episode III. And with this movie, do we really want to go beyond reviewing the fights? Sure, let's have fun with the drama...

    Umm... yeah... let's forget the so-called love dialogue that Lucas is so much a master of (*cringe*)... ruining. So I'll skip further talk on the love dialogue.

    McDiarmid, best performance. McGregor, second best performance I thought though a scene or two ruined it a bit. Portman... glad Episode II and III are over with (she turned in an alright performance in I at least)... probably making a case that she shouldn't be shoved into green-screen stages. Jackson... more screentime, somehow that and the camera made his performance worse, but I still want to just blame Lucas for the mediocre or lifeless performance (yeah, yeah, I know, he's a Jedi). Christensen, lovey-dovey dialogue aside, started to win some approval from me (well, more like "well, he's not THAT bad...") and then he turned to the darkside and I felt he came close to knocking off Arnold's position from Batman and Robin.

    We have the infamouse "NOOOOOO" scene now, so that's always fun random stranger conversation when the word Episode III is mentioned. Oh yeah, wookie dialogue scene was pretty darn funny.

    We learn that we can get Yoda to wave the white flag and retire in pajamas if we get him to lose his lightsabre :p

    We also learn that it is possible to hack, wheaze, and cough persistently even when your lungs and throat are completely gone. Maybe Grievous was suffering from a feature of the force? Grievous indeed.

    Princess Leia has a darn good memory (watch Return of the Jedi). Even if their "just images."

    While the process of balancing a tightrope act between the darkside and the light, Anakin's moment of turning was umm... sudden to say the least.
    Dialogue spoiler (and it runs in the movie as fast as you read it):
    "What have I done?! I will do whatever you say."

    Yeah... nice anguish there, dude.

    Okay, okay, okay... So I can pick on this movie almost as much as I did Episode II, though clearly this film is at least entertaining.

    Episode III was enjoyable, but I didn't get up out of my chair or anything. It was filled with action, which was definitely enjoyable, two or three stood out. If you share Lucas' obsession of "more CG stuff being sprinkled all over the place" you'll probably enjoy that aspect (though I argue that the way he uses "more" makes "boring monotonous detail."

    But... I still have the feeling that Episode III represents the general idea that I felt should have been covered in Episode II and III. Part of me would like to see the costumed Vader fight, but I have to admit that it would probably look really lame no matter how you did it unless he was just moving along crushing people with the force and leveled medium scale armies. But who knows what could have been...

    Maybe I pass Episode III because it's finally done with and in some way, I there was relief when it was over and done with (for some reason or another).

    It did help me to enjoy my old VHS Pan & Scan copies of 4-6. Though not the way Lucas was hoping.

    -Chanchai
     
  5. Jerky

    Jerky Well-Known Member

    Episode III was equivalent to a WWE ppv event:

    JEDI SURVIVOR SERIES

    * Jedi must have both limbs chopped off and thrown OVER the top rope to be eliminated

    Anakin vs Count Dooku

    Obi Wan vs Grievous

    Mace Windu vs Palpatine

    Mace Windu vs Anakin

    ----------------------------------

    Yoda vs Palpatine

    Anakin vs Obi Wan
     
  6. Chanchai

    Chanchai Well-Known Member

    Think they should have brought on the ladder wars? or whatever it is the WWE adds into Wrestlemania to make it all the more redneckish...
     
  7. RagingSilver

    RagingSilver Well-Known Member

    "We also learn that it is possible to hack, wheaze, and cough persistently even when your lungs and throat are completely gone. Maybe Grievous was suffering from a feature of the force? Grievous indeed. "

    I guess u didn't watch the mini series that was shown on toonami in the UK. It's a small cartoon series with about 5 or 10 minutes per episode. In there, Grevious had a fight with Windu and Windu basically crushed his chest with the force. Also in the cartoon, it shows how Palpatine got caught.

    so it's more like this:
    star wars 1
    star wars 2
    star wars cartoon series
    star wars 3
    star wars 4,5,6

    Lol, anyone seen the secret footage that lucas made that he didn't want anyone to see? it was based on Chewbaka and his family, man was it hilarious.
     
  8. RandomHajile

    RandomHajile Well-Known Member

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    RagingSilver said:

    Lol, anyone seen the secret footage that lucas made that he didn't want anyone to see? it was based on Chewbaka and his family, man was it hilarious.

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    you do of corse mean "the star wars holiday special"

    1st and ONLY USA broadcast on nov 17th in 1977!!!

    the ozzys did manage to screen it after, and is infact the good "scorce" of the bootleg dvd out there!

    lucas tryed to distroy all copys of it!
    #
    luke had more make up then leia

    and leia was so coked up(and cocked up by harrison!) i bet she did that "song" freestyle!!!

    that little "ewok" son of chewie (lumpy) was fookin joke!

    bair tactics building his own transmiter!

    i be that was gary coleman inside that ewok suit! (wat'chu talkin' about?!)

    rumors that lucas' old mate coppela also made a "the godfather christmas special" cos he needed money (as always) hav' never been proven!

    but some say that it found way/light in some form in godfather 3!!! (but i actually like GF3!)

    star wars fans bewarned, dont watch the holiday special if you really like star wars!
     
  9. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    the holiday special is just like the recent crop of films. pure shite. the fact that Beatrice Arthur and Harvey Korman were in it....well, I give you Jimmy Smits and Samuel Jackson.

    only good thing is the animated segment in the middle showing Boba Fett. And that's just barely good.

    Lucas will sign his name to just about anything with a profit margin but he took his name off of the special before it aired. That, ladies and Gentlemen, is how bad this thing is.

    You can buy it and you can Download it. I've done both. I derive satisfaction that lucas is absolutely mental with the fact that it still exists.


    GE
     
  10. Jerky

    Jerky Well-Known Member

    While on the topic of Star Wars:

    http://www.mos.org/doc/1293

    The Museum of Science, Boston is creating this exhibit and it will also be touring other locations after its run here:

    * COSI, Columbus (Ohio)
    * Oregon Museum of Science and Industry (Portland)
    * California Science Center (Los Angeles)
    * Science Museum of Minnesota (Saint Paul)
    * The Franklin Institute (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania)
    * Fort Worth Museum of Science History (Texas)

    Just thought I'd throw that in there for the actual fans or for whoever was interested.
     
  11. Liquid_MAX

    Liquid_MAX Well-Known Member

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    RandomHajile said:

    did u think it was good or bad?

    as i was watching it i was thinking it could be the best of the prequles but the rushed shitness that was the ending made me realise that star wars was a killed with the force a long long time ago (whenin 1999 qui gon said the force was mediclorents not "spirit")

    it did look and sound good tho....

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    He didn't say that the Force was midichlorians, just that these midichlorians were present in all living things as a conduit to the Force, which is a spirit-type entity. That's why some are more "strong with the Force" than others. It's why "my father has it, I have it...and my sister has it".
     
  12. Liquid_MAX

    Liquid_MAX Well-Known Member

    Here's the review I wrote of Episode III:

    {This was written arriving back from the 0035 GMT showing of Episode III last night. Yes, that means I saw it before you Americans :p }

    Star Wars - Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith:

    Quite frankly, this is the most beautiful film I've ever seen.

    Certainly, it's on a par with The Lord Of The Rings, and arguably surpasses it in its visual splendour.

    Now, after that elongated expression of the word "wow", I'm going to attempt to find some grounding on which I might place my feet (hey, you try going into adrenaline-fuelled space battles, countless lightsaber battles of every variety and state of grandeur, sweeping away to exotic waterfalls, rushing through impossibly scaled cityscapes and leaping around on a lava planet, and then keep a straight head!) so that I may start to put together a cohesive review.

    "Only a Sith deals in absolutes."
    - Obi-Wan Kenobi

    A struggle as old as time itself, good versus evil, has never been a straight-up affair. What is 'evil'? What, for that matter, is 'good'? They are merely perspectives, points of view, subjective approaches to situations, circumstances and actions upon which we pass judgement depending on our standpoint. Evil occurs within men and women who allow their moral code to slip, who begin using their abilities to fulfill greedy, gluttaneous goals. Often, we believe that we are doing the 'right' thing, the 'good' thing. However, this involves deviating from morality, and in the wrong environment and under the wrong circumstances, evil is bred.

    This is the tale of the fall of one Anakin Skywalker. A respected Jedi Knight, a man who is, at heart, of noble intention, and has sworn his life to serving the Jedi order. However, in allowing himself to gain an attachment to a woman, and the fact that he had undergone loss with his mother, which in turn instilled within him a fear of further loss with his lover, he is compelled by fear, and its subsequent emotions of anger and hate to indluge in practices deemed wrong by the Jedi order. This is the way to the way of the Sith.

    This is the way of the Dark Side.

    However, as Anakin succumbs to darkness, so too does the political system. Under proclaimed threats by Chancellor Palpatine, the people willfully shake off their commitment to the principles of democracy in exchange for peace. In exchange for 'security'.

    In exchange for the Empire.

    The echoes of Nazi Germany and foreshadowings of a potential American Imperialism - and the political plausibility with which the movie demonstrates the formation of such autocratic states - has bone-shuddering quivers of unease and disconcertment at their core of contemporary prominence.

    The film itself grips you and delivers on all the emotional beats promised by Episode II. Viewing this movie gives one a truer sense of understanding towards the rest of the saga, redeeming even Episode I's fairly unengaging (according to some) plot. Perhaps the greatest strength of this movie, as is with all of them (particularly the prequels) is the sense of integrity and prominence of the importance of the Jedi. Seeing as this is the Jedi prime time, it makes perfect - and often, entertaining - sense. Yes, their is some cringe-worthy acting in there, but curiously, it comes only from the usually-exceptional Natalie Portman. She isn't terrible, though, and I suppose it stood out partially because I was looking out for it partly because of the slagging Episode I and Episode II had received on the counts of acting. The most enjoyable performance was by far that of Ewan McGreggor. He does Alec Guinness nothing but justice, and he does himself proud while he's at it. Hayden's performance wasn't particularly note-worthy, but he certainly had some fabulous moments. Luckily, he delivers on all the key points making for a wonderful characterisation of 'the Vader before the mask'.

    As for the sound, John Williams performs once again to prove precisely why, at the age of 73, he's still considered the top-brass of Hollywood music composers. He delivers on every emotional chord with perfect sensibility, juxtaposed on beautifully composed and editted scenes...which brings us, at long last, to the man behind the screen. The man who put it all together. The man who gave the world lightsabers, Darth Vader, the most thrilling space battles ever put to screen to change our culture forever. The man who gave us Star Wars - George Lucus. THere is so much passion behind that CG fuelled camera of his (the CG, which - by the way - is next to flawless in this film...interestingly enough, I'm sure it won't get as much press as the bad CG). He loves his characters, he understands what the audience needs.

    Behind it all, there is still just a big bearded kid who loves to blow shit up.

    Well, it's 0400 here in London (I went to the 0035 showing), and I'm friggin' kackered.

    Peace out.

    Score: <font color="red">****1/2</font>
     
  13. Mr. Bungle

    Mr. Bungle Well-Known Member

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    Quite frankly, this is the most beautiful film I've ever seen.

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    BUUAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAhAHAHahAHhahAHhAHAHAhhaJAhjhjajajjjjaaa

    oh how i pity, fear for and fear the younger generations...
     
  14. sanjuroAKIRA

    sanjuroAKIRA Well-Known Member

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    Now, after that elongated expression of the word "wow", I'm going to attempt to find some grounding on which I might place my feet (hey, you try going into adrenaline-fuelled space battles, countless lightsaber battles of every variety and state of grandeur, sweeping away to exotic waterfalls, rushing through impossibly scaled cityscapes and leaping around on a lava planet, and then keep a straight head!) so that I may start to put together a cohesive review.

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  15. Liquid_MAX

    Liquid_MAX Well-Known Member

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    Mr. Bungle said:

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    Quite frankly, this is the most beautiful film I've ever seen.

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    BUUAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAhAHAHahAHhahAHhAHAHAhhaJAhjhjajajjjjaaa

    oh how i pity, fear for and fear the younger generations...

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    Was there really a need for such a personal insult? Im an avid fan of Lucas' earlier work, THX1138, I'm a Kubrick-obsessed film fanatic who can't get enough of 2001, and I've seen a whole host of other science fiction and fantasy movies, including the original Star Wars (1977) that I thought was direly overrated.

    I honestly believe that the environments and atmospheres created by Lucas in this movie are the most astounding, most breathtaking, most evocative images I've seen on screen for a while, and probably will see for a long time. The comparative maturity of this movie (and of Ep. II) was something that I felt was laking from the distinctly more shallow original trilogy.

    It's my opinion, dude. Deal with it.
     
  16. Liquid_MAX

    Liquid_MAX Well-Known Member

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  17. Liquid_MAX

    Liquid_MAX Well-Known Member

    Ach! Sorry for the multiple posts!!!!
     
  18. Liquid_MAX

    Liquid_MAX Well-Known Member

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    sanjuro said:

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    Now, after that elongated expression of the word "wow", I'm going to attempt to find some grounding on which I might place my feet (hey, you try going into adrenaline-fuelled space battles, countless lightsaber battles of every variety and state of grandeur, sweeping away to exotic waterfalls, rushing through impossibly scaled cityscapes and leaping around on a lava planet, and then keep a straight head!) so that I may start to put together a cohesive review.

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    Haha...yes, it was pretty late when I wrote it /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
     
  19. DissMaster

    DissMaster Well-Known Member

    Huh...

    The maturity of Episode III and II... I am still scratching my head over that one. The central love stroy was so corny, so after-school-special-y that it made me embarrassed for all involved.

    Now episode III was a fun movie to watch, but it was pure Campy Space Cartoon. The visuals, while technically amazing, are not as arresting as those in say The Last Emperor or The Thin Red Line simply because, well, I think Lucas doesn't have the best taste and instead puts $millions in CGI to mask this.

    I can see how a Kubrick fan would also love George Lucas. A lot of pepole dpn't know this, but Kubrick actually wrote the screenplay for "Howard the Duck" at the same time that he was making "Barry Lyndon."
     
  20. Madin

    Madin Well-Known Member

    This is one of those 'needless spam' replies, but congratulations on doing 6 of the last 9 posts!
    also... did U luv da matrix?!?1 i think its da bestest sci-fi evar!!!
    i meen, its got romanse, kung-fu, guns and robots!!!
    OH MY GOSH!
     

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