revised vf4 stepping?

my nizzidges!~ /versus/images/icons/laugh.gif

there has been discussion on the japanese bbses regarding methods of step movement; see the following:
translator. oddly, it looks a lot like a mishima lightdash only in reverse.

step technique:
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I don't suppose you can do this forwards can you? Is there a difference in the limits of backwards CD and forward CD?

 

There seems to be a lot of cancelling of moves such as d+K, G cancelling involved in order change stances. What I'm baffled is why the constant use of the G after the CD ? Granted that it is a pretty good defensive measure, but it seems redundant in that the movement distance is actually lessened wouldn't it ?

 

This reminds me of the "Chicken Step" (I think it's called) in VF3tb (I'm assuming it's in all VF3).

That particular step was done with rapid QCB type of motions if I recall. I never spent time on it, nor did I get good at it. But this clip really reminds me of that step.

-Chanchai

 

db, db, G, db, G, db, G, db, G,

Doesn't tapping guard here clear the buffer, so a single d/b couldn't suffice for a crouch dash command?

I mean you can't backdash with b,b G, b, G, b, G.

 

need.....to.......practice..........

 

rather than breaking the rules, maybe dude's using the quick wiggle motion? He does a C-dash, the stick is at d/b... taps guard while stick is still at d/b. Game registers guard for a few frames, then immediately registers d/b when he releases guard. Dude returns to neutral or down, then goes to d/b again and taps guard.. .repeat.

You see the idea? the game is registering d/b, n, d/b (or maybe d/b, d, d/b) but the guy's just splitting one d/b into two d/b's by tapping guard and holding the stick there very briefly.

 

In the original Japanese post, the guy who did the move mentioned that the neutral motion of the stick has been omited from the 33G3G33G.

So it should have been something like 33Gn3Gn33Gn

I think I sound real stupid if I ask this, but how does this CD thing improve gameplay?

 

Its an option among many. It's more a novelty skill.

Only useful but dashing backwards quickly. For going forwards running is much faster.

In general its quite useful for faking mistakes from your opponent.

 

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p.s. i just realized that baiagu.gooside.com is the webpage of baiagurau, the lau player that place 3rd overall in the japanese national tournament.

 

i think the cd'ing can lead to more setups if done correctly and use wisely. quick ins and out of range.......

 

are there any <font color=yellow>evade</font color=yellow> & crouch dash cancel methods yet discovered? ... i need to get out of this linear feel.....

also, what's the chicken step? i've never heard of this method... care to tell me more?

 

yeah evade + crouch dash was discovered in VF3. Yes, it works in VF4 under some conditions, which have been discussed to death.
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Chicken step is a joking term used to describe constantly running away with multiple buffered crouch dashes, or even back dashes.... or even good old b,b --> f,f --> b,b --> f,f machi movement.

 

thanx creed,... i reeeeallyy need to get VF4 in the home to practice these things... ^_^




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err... i could'nt find it on the search... could anyone tell me about the <font color=yellow>evade</font color=yellow>/crouch dash cancel method in VF4? (plz)


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In VF4, evades are so small (usually) that there is no time to evade and then crouch dash while evading.
Also, the motion for the evade makes it a little tricky.

If the opponent does an attack, your evade is long, like in VF3. So crouch dashing out of the middle of this evade is possible.

There is no way to do evade - crouch dash - evade - crouch dash like in VF3, unless the opponent keeps attacking you.

 

U kinda can do it
not like the speed of KSing...but u still can do it~

Because whenever I do it..my friends all say it looks very much like the way I KS in VF3

5 pair of eyes cannot be blind at the same time /versus/images/icons/laugh.gif

 

hmm, i'll need to do some experimenting...... thanx for the info /versus/images/icons/smile.gif

sometimes i wonder about VF4's development..




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