Sal's stupid vf3 trivia contest..

Discussion in 'The Vault' started by Sudden_Death, Feb 4, 2001.

  1. Sudden_Death

    Sudden_Death Well-Known Member

    This is something I found out while messing around with akira. It's basically ST, p, into instant double palm. the dblplm comes out as soon as the punch comes out. it's like akira's ST, dblplm, but I added a punch before the dblplm. there is no CD involved. btw, this is not a combo, it's just a useless thing.

    since noone i knew could figure out how i did it, i though about doing a little contest with a prize to the winner. I'll give one week (from today till next sunday) to see if anybody comes up with the correct command of how it was done. the first one to come up with the EXACT commands will get a copy of the latest vf3tb tape; the beat-tribe/athena cup tapes (about 4 hours of hardcore competition) IF YOU COME UP WITH THE ANSWER BY NEXT TUESDAY ONLY. if noone comes up with the answer by tuesday then someone gives the answer for example on wednesday, you will not get that tape, instead you'll get another tape called "vf2 WOF:the unknown". its a cool tape that shows all the little known vf2 stuff like senbon punch, fuzzy guard, taiwan step plus much more. If noone figures this out, I'll give the answer on the following day after the contest ends (monday). so you could try it out for yourselves and see that i wasnt bullshitting :)

    disclaimer: contest prohibited for nyc "crew" (they don't know how to do it anyway). dont ask for a copy of the tapes even if you offer money, its a hassle to copy that thing, too long.

    so see the short clip and try to emulate it.

    Punch double palm



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  2. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    Godamnit...this means i may have to practise......you bastard.....

    "Victory can be anticipated, but not assured" Sun-Tzu
     
  3. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    No I haven't worked it out yet (damn you picc!). I'm just posting to inform that the link on the main index has been fixed.
     
  4. Sudden_Death

    Sudden_Death Well-Known Member

    thanks mike!


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  5. Mr. Bungle

    Mr. Bungle Well-Known Member

    ..i just feel compelled to say that i HATE wmv. wmv can FUCK THE FUCKING HELL OFF. asf, too.
     
  6. Llanfair

    Llanfair Well-Known Member

    Child's play...

    coolio!

    ST, P+K, d,db,b,f+P

    The P+K, and the 'quick' double palm are buffered throughout the animation of the stumbling trip, of course.

    Piccolo, you added a dash in there if I watch your clip again. Thanks for the new Akira tidbit...something I never knew!

    /images/icons/smile.gif

    http://www3.sympatico.ca/llanfair/clips/funky.AVI

    cheers,

    <font color=white> Llanfair the prized <font color=green>cabbage</font color=green></font color=white>
     
  7. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    Re: Child's play...

    *bow* :)
     
  8. Sudden_Death

    Sudden_Death Well-Known Member

    winner!!!

    well, you won. that's the correct command.

    the P+K is different than p,pg or pkg in that its the only way you can punch without taking a step forward.

    email me to claim your prize :)

    btw, how long did it took you to figure it out?

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  9. Chanchai

    Chanchai Well-Known Member

    Re: winner!!!

    *Clap Clap Clap*

    Wow, I just have a feeling Llany already knew this one, but whether or not that's the case, congratulations/images/icons/smile.gif

    Hehe, anymore of these Pic? (With or without prizes)

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    -Chanchai
     
  10. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    Re: Child's play...

    GODDAMN IT. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!

    I knew I should have posted last night. Probably
    Llany knows this but anything involving the ST
    has the exact properties in VF2 as in VF3. I
    played with it for ten minutes before going to
    bed.

    The P on it's on won't work because it combos,
    a PG won't work for obvious reasons. The only
    one left was PK for the option select and non
    combo ability.

    FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHK

    sigh,

    GE
     
  11. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    Re: winner!!!

    Sorry, Sal but I'm gonna guess that
    it took llanfair about as long if
    not a smaller amount of time as
    myself to figure this out. Ten minutes.

    On the surface it really appears screwed
    up. but the reality is that you only have
    to go back a bit to the first buffer bug--
    ST, Mountain, Dblpalm--to realize what your
    inputs ould have in common with the ones we
    had to try out. After that its pretty easy.

    As I raged about earlier (I still can't believe
    I was too lazy to power up the computer) I
    figured out the inputs almost after I realized
    that P on its own would Combo into his double
    punch, PG would result in dumping the buffer.
    Only PK would be sufficient to serve as a
    stand alone punch. I honestly don't think
    moving forward or backward has anything to
    do with it as I can dash back a slight bit
    before executing the rolled doublepalm on its
    own. that's ST, bb, d, db,b,f+P. Also, in
    the original buffer bug you could hold the
    last forward so that the mountain/bodycheck
    actually hit before the DBlpalm came out.

    The P+K works because it counts as a stand alone
    input, aside from hitting K right after to
    option select into a PK combo (P+K, K) there's
    nothing else you can do to intefere with the
    doublepalm coming out.

    That was neat. I can't believe I didn't post
    earlier. When did you post, Llan?

    Damn

    GE
     
  12. Llanfair

    Llanfair Well-Known Member

    Re: winner!!!

    Yepper skipper...you got it - about 10 minutes or so...My wife and I got home from dropping off a movie and it was about 11:30 pm-ish. The board was on my screen from earlier so I refreshed and saw Piccolo's post. I thought "hmmm...interesting...must be like the Mountain, DbPm"

    Anyway, I only had about 10 minutes to try it because my wife wanted me to come to bed - go figure (/images/icons/smile.gif). Anyway, after a few tries of PG timing and realizing I was cancelling the buffer (as GE pointed out) I figured P+K would work. Presto. Then it all clicked - that's why the Mountain works.

    Sorry I beat you to the punch! (lol - pun originally not intended!!)

    cheers,

    <font color=white> Llanfair the prized <font color=green>cabbage</font color=green></font color=white>
     
  13. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    Re: winner!!!

    about 10 minutes or so...My wife and I got home from dropping off a movie and it was about 11:30 pm-ish

    This is sick. I went to bed at 9:45. ah well.

    GE
     
  14. Sudden_Death

    Sudden_Death Well-Known Member

    combo video..

    hehe i'm not sorry about it, but it would of been
    funny if noone could figure such an easy input as
    PK.

    anyway, im gonna ask andy to release the akira
    combo/buffer movie i made. it consists of combos
    that i like, be it easy ones or hard ones (by vf3
    standards anyway), plus examples of akira's
    buffering stuff after an ST. unfortunately, this
    will be posted on the most hated format, windows
    media. I don't know what andy could do to convert
    this into another format (he says he doesnt have
    the "tools"), so there's nothing i can do.


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  15. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    Re: combo video..

    hehe i'm not sorry about it, but it would of been
    funny if noone could figure such an easy input as
    PK.


    I actually find this fairly interesting. The fact that
    Llany and I both arrived at the same conclusion in the
    exat same way, around the same time frame independantly
    of each other. For me, the answer was practically obvious
    but I assume that its much like VF itself...different
    areas (geographical) evolve different ways of thinking.
    A P+K input is old school option select for us.

    As for WMV...I don't mind the format but I'll tell you.
    I could barely make out your initial double palm video.
    I have to assume its due to set up involved and not the
    compression format since it was only a fraction smaller
    than llan's own demo.

    I wonder what Tool's andy needs. I, or others here, could
    certainly direct him to certain resources for re-compression.
    'course, if I'm right and the limitation here is setup (ie,
    not a direct feed to the capture software) than alternative
    compression schemes wouldn't make too big a difference.

    GE

    -I'm trying to come up with a contest now. What a great idea.
     
  16. Chanchai

    Chanchai Well-Known Member

    Re: combo video..

    About the setup, Andy's setup that is... This is my speculation on it:

    Andy plays VF via a projector. They use a VGA Box to connect to the projector. My guess is that since they (NY Crew who play at Andy's) prefer using VGA, they don't want to hook up a VCR in the setup (or they simply don't have one perhaps), thus, they use a camcorder to videotape what's on the wall (hence you hear background noise, might see the video at slight distortions if the camera is taking from an angle, etc...).

    I think that's why the videos are very dark/dim.

    ***NYG2 Story here***
    In person, the setup looks wonderful and is portable (though Agetec sticks aren't noise proof hehehe). Was nice playing VF in the smaller room when it was bedtime for Andy, but the loud clicks from the Agetecs were driving him (as well as anyone who would want to sleep) insane. Of course we tortured him in the end by turning the setup off and getting ready for bed when he finally decided to stay up and play. Poor guy, so considerate of us :p
    ***End of NYG2 Story***

    Anyways, I'm assuming Andy's camcorder doesn't exhagerate the lighting from the projector. Despite all that, I still like the NY Crew videos and encourage them to keep on with it. Also, fortunately for me, my camcorder picks up the projection extremely well (Emil, Adam, Kruza, and I were watching some matches via my camcorder when we picked up Kruza from the airport).

    And there's your rants and speculations as usual, from Chanchai.

    -Chanchai
     
  17. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    ST buffering

    The P+K works because it counts as a stand alone
    input, aside from hitting K right after to
    option select into a PK combo (P+K, K) there's
    nothing else you can do to intefere with the
    doublepalm coming out.


    Does the P+K+G after the ST work as well? On more than one occasion I've executed Stun Palm (P+K+G) -> instant DbPm, but I can't do it consistently. The weird thing is that I seem to recall doing it after a regular Stun Palm too (i.e. no ST involved).

    I'm looking forward to this video of Sal's to see what other tricks he has up his sleeve.
     

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