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Sarah Bryant's style XMA?

Discussion in 'General' started by Adamay, Apr 13, 2008.

  1. Adamay

    Adamay Well-Known Member

    Why did they change it from Jeet Kune Do to simply "Martial Arts"? Some people claim that she is based on Taekwondo but i can't see the resemblance aside from her fast kicks, some of them that you don't even see in neither WTF(Olympic TKD) and ITF.

    From Shitipedia:
    Extreme Martial Arts, often referred to as XMA, is not a martial art in itself, it is a combination of made up martial arts kata or forms, acrobatics, and gymnastics, with an emphasis on showmanship.

    Mini Sarah Bryant
    <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/uWAYyvTVUuc"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/uWAYyvTVUuc" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

    JKD? TKD? or XMA?
     
  2. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

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    Sorry - can't say I know. However, 2:07-2:10 = bad-ass. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/thumbs_up.gif
     
  3. Sebo

    Sebo Well-Known Member Content Manager Taka Content Manager Jeffry

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    Sarah is a practitioner of "Most-Awesome-Style-In-VF."

    Beyond that... um... ???
     
  4. L_A

    L_A Well-Known Member

  5. Shin_KoRyo

    Shin_KoRyo Active Member

    Sarah and Jacky have never struck me as having a "pure" style. When you look at the other fighters the majority of their moves come from the style listed in the bio. I study Tae Kwon Do and there are things Sarah does that are TKD there are also some Savate influenced moves. She's basically martial arts gumbo, some of this some of that. Jacky is the same way. He has some Jeet Kun Do moves, but all of the spinning and high line kicks would be out of place in Jeet Kun Do. If you read Bruce Lee's theory; the bottom line is you use what works for you. So in that sense they are both using JKD because they are using moves that work for them.
     
  6. sakuyarules

    sakuyarules Active Member

    To the OP, XMA isn't used for fighting, it's a showmanship thing. I doubt anyone would do a backhandspring to a backflip kick to kick someone in a real fight. While the moves are influenced by martial arts, they are used with a gymnastic style, similar to how people spin the bo staff and do cool tricks with it, they are just that, tricks, not very good to use in a real fight. I do like XMA, and I want to get more into it, and it's gymnastic aspect in order to incorporate it into my Parkour/ Free Running, however, as a fighting art, there are more effective choices is all I'm saying.

    What shin says is correct. Although I have one thing to add. JKD is about not taking any unnecessary movements. The reason Bruce left Wing Chun, was because of it's limitations, one of the main ones being that there were all these movements that were passive movements (i.e. a movement just there to get you to the next movement). He felt that if you could just punch someone in the face, why waste extra time doing 2 extra movements just to do the same punch. Thus lies the core of JKD no wasted movements.
     
  7. ShinobiFist

    ShinobiFist Well-Known Member

    One thing people need to understand is that AM2 are BIG! Hong Kong Cinema(Kick Flicks)fans.Sarah style is based of a kicker from Drunken Master 2, choreograph by Lau Kar-Leung. In this clip, you see everything from the Flamingo Stance, 4K+G, G cancel into Flamingo Stance, Flamingo Stance into Shuffle, 33K and others. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBi2udFHY-Q&feature=related
    Most people need to understand that alot of Martial Art choreographers take alot of liberties when it comes to the style they're using, and in often times create their OWNED style. So there for, this style was put together by Lau Kar-Leung, that's why AM2 label her as a "Martial Arts". You see a little bit of Savate, TKD, Wing Chun, Muai Thai and JKD kicks. Remember, Bruce Lee is the Father of MMA, So calling Sarah's style JKD is debatable, but if it was, they(AM2) would of label her as one(Like in the past). So "Martial Arts" will have to do now. End Of Topic.
     
  8. Fulan

    Fulan Well-Known Member

    That little girl is all kinds of badass.
     
  9. Slide

    Slide Well-Known Member

    Oh man I forgot all about that fight, in the clip. Like every damn move this cat is doing, Sarah does in the game.
     
  10. Shin_KoRyo

    Shin_KoRyo Active Member

    Not to start anything with ShinobiFist, but I wouldn't necessarily say Sarah's style is derived from the guy in Drunken Master 2. If you look at Drunken Master 1 the main bad guy had a kick oriented style. Also, just about every TKD fighter I've seen in video games has a Flamingo Stance. Baek Doo San from Tekken had it long before Sarah (although Sarah's stance is much more versitale). The Flamingo stance is what movie people and video game people seem to want to use to signify that somebody is using TKD. It's kinda valid as point fighters still use that type of technique, but olympic stlye fighters use it very infrequently. I made a case for Sarah being JKD, but now that I think of it she is pretty much TKD with a whole lot of highlight moves for visual flair.

    Just my 2 cents
     
  11. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    Sarah wears pj's and screams in a pre-pubescent voice?
     
  12. Sebo

    Sebo Well-Known Member Content Manager Taka Content Manager Jeffry

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    I learn something new every time I log on too.
     
  13. tonyfamilia

    tonyfamilia Well-Known Member

    It's Virtua Fighter Kids Sarah!
    I can't wait for someone to post a vid of a mini-Jeffry XD
     
  14. ShinobiFist

    ShinobiFist Well-Known Member

    In Drunken Master 1, you see a "Kicker" there as well, but not to the extent of the one you see in Drunken Master 2. In the clip I provided on the previous post, you see everything Sarah does. Lau Kar-Leung did a great job combining elements from different styles(Savate, TKD, Wing Chun, Muai Thai and others) JKD wasn't know to be kick heavy. Bruce, always emphasize quick and snappy kicks to the lower body.
    But, of course(Stated by others)Bruce, always said, use what works for you. But, I've never seen, or heard of a Kick heavy JKD practitioner, that's why I can't label her as one. Like I said before, if Sarah was truly a JKD practitioner or TKD. AM2 would of label her as one.Thruth be told, she's a MMA fighter if you think about it...."But, Shinobi, isn't JKD, the father MMA?" *Slaps forehead*
     
  15. Manjimaru

    Manjimaru Grumpy old man

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    Yes I agree, that movie is propably the source of Sarah techniques. That dude does a TKD technique reverse jumping back kick once though and Sarah doesnt have it (about 1:35 in that clip) ...Maybe next VF /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif That dude is pretty good.. he starts off the fight with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif to get good frame advantage!

    Also Sarahs style is propably called "martial Arts" because it is such a mix of martial arts really (Well like most characters are but more so with Sarah I guess).
     
  16. katsudon37

    katsudon37 Well-Known Member

    I never understood why people say JKD is the father of MMA. They have similar overview-level concepts such as "do whatever works", but besides that, they don't really share any history or similarities. Brazilian Jiujitsu is the only father of MMA - if not for the Gracies bringing Brazilian Jiujitsu to the US, then there'd be no MMA (in the US) right now. And certainly Brazilian Jiujitsu wasn't influenced by Bruce Lee, it was a family thing from generations before there were even movies.

    I dunno, I think people give Bruce Lee too much credit.

    *shrugs*
     
  17. L_A

    L_A Well-Known Member

    I think what people mean by that is that lee was ONE of the first to strive towards cross training and finding using whatever works for your style while at that time most the people were thinking in the likes of my style is better or more complete than yours. GJJ cant be really considered the father of mma unless its american mma. Vale tudo fights in brazil and full contact mma was around long before ufc 1 in 93. The gracie family bascially used the UFC as a means of promoting their style and filling their schools with students which worked out very well for them. Nowadays bjj is just an accepted part of the game much like various standup styles but it's not to say a fighter can't be complete without bjj. shooto and sambo have many similiarities and equally strong points.
    Anyways, sorry for hijacking the thread.
     
  18. ShinobiFist

    ShinobiFist Well-Known Member

    LA Akira, pretty much explain what I was going to say. Good write up. Back on topic, so let's put this to rest folks, before we see MORE threads about her "Style". AM2 chose the right category to put Sarah in, "Martial Art" Lau Kar-Leung put various kick styles together for the character he created for his film. So there for, AM2 did the right thing to label her style "Martial Art" because it has no name. Unlike other choreographers(Woo Ping)that name their work.
     
  19. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    JKD = early incarnation of MMA.
     

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