Sarah Combos

Ok, so you have to be point blank. What's the execution like? Is it d+KP+G or do you wait for the kick to hit then input the throw command?

 

Timing is real tight.
As soon as you see it her kick hit the P+G must be entered.
Next I'll try the K+G link throw f+P+G

 

So it's pretty much one motion like say Kage's TFT follow up (b+P+GU+P+G). By this I mean do you do the P+G expecting the low kick to hit?

 

I would have to say that there is a slight pause between the to commands. Its not like you link the two inputs together as fast as you can.

 

Re: hit-throws

Myke,
You don't play Sarah... GO BACK HOME (Didn't connect one of those on you last night.. but there's always tomorrow)
As for distancing, I do think you have to get with in arms reach, I've tried agsinst Lion a million times at the start of the round, this is what I do, b+K into FL (hits most of the time) d+K = P+G. The distance between Lion and Sarah when I do the low kick is at its maximum and I've never got it, and NO I'm not that unco. Last night, however I made sure that I was as close as I can get and I got it twice in a row against you in that mercy round.

 

Re: hit-throws

Myke, Adio,
Actually I'm going up this afternoon and I'll test what you are saying and report back.

 

Re: hit-throws

OK.... Against dumb ass CPU Lion I was able to get out her low kick link thorw out a lot more today then ever before, proximery to your opponent does make a diff I think. I still couldn't execute the throw at the maximum range of her low kick. Anyway I did manage to get her FL K+G = f+P+G move out once against Pai. I'm not sure if any of you have seen this move but its really cool. When Sarah connects her kicking leg to your opponents shoulder, she stops it resting there and in one motion Sarah jumps up with her other leg bringing it the head of your opponent all while twisting. The resalt is your opponent getting violently twisted from the head by Sarah's legs. Kinda reminds me of a Cammy throw from SF.

 

Vansen, Myke. Your enthusiasm is duly noted. I'll expect the results of your tests at 00:00 hours.

Dismissed.

 

Re: hit-throws

Myke Wolfs b+K+G, P+G IS distance dependant, and you don't have to do it 'PP' speed, I get better results by timing the P+G to coincide with the connection phase of the b+K+G...

 

Re: hit-throws

The plot thickens.....
Thanks for letting us know about Wolf's link throw... maybe I'm not unco after all... LOL
In any case there will be a lot of testing this friday. Maybe Myke acan give me 3 rounds of mercy.

 

Re: hit-throws

whats a hit throw?

Whats the difference between that and a normal throw?

 

Re: hit-throws

If you look at the movelists at virtuaproject, all hit throws have a exclamation point in there command motions. Look thru the level column for "t" labels that are not in the dedicated throw section for each character.

a few examples:

Sarah in flamingo stance has:
d+K!P+G is the flamingo low kick - hand hold neck cutting throw and,
K+G!f+P+G is the flamingo heel sword - neck cutter

Jeff:
d+K!d>f+P+G is the toe kick - splash mountain (aka toe kick of doom)
b,df+P+K!b+P+G and b,df+P+K!d+P+G are the stomach crush - lift up/spine buster throws respectively

You can only get those throws if the preceeding attack hits. The big advantage to most hit throws is that they cannot be reversed. Think of it as just free extra damage in a canned combo. But there are exceptions... Jeff's stomach crush throws are listed as reversable, and there are weird things like Jeff's counter stance P,f+P+G which supposedly only works if the punch is blocked or Wolf's double punch-elbow-double arm suplex low throw which only works if the opponent is ducking under the PPf+P combo, so the elbow must miss in this case. Check the movelists for details. Click on the graphic in my sig to get to virtuaproject.

 

Re: hit-throws

re the blocked punch canned combo, can you enter the throw command and not get a whiff throw animation? probably not.
just a thought. P,G for free alllll day.

 

Re: hit-throw requirements

Vansen, Myke, uk-guy. Thank you.

 

Re: hit-throw requirements

Just had a thought on hit throws,
Because the timing is so tight, can you repleatedly input the throw command?

You can mash out quick rises and throw escapes, why not hit throws.

 

Re: hit-throw requirements

If you can mash, it's pretty much up to sega. Like Taka's elbow hit throw did not allow mashing. To me Jeff's low headbutt hit throw seemed to, although maybe my first P+G was the one that was timed correctly.